Of course they are, they’re all Nazis too.

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    These were NOT “kids”. They were adults up to 40 years old. Most men have grown up around 25 years of age. These privileged cunts are well past the point of learning anything new, and maga doesn’t do learning anyway, so they are typical, fat ass racist republicans now, all grown up.

    These obese dumbasses, did this on record, and never had the thought that maybe, just maybe, recording their racism might be a bad idea.

    These obese dumbasses all have political leadership aspirations, and guaranteed at least a couple will use the “growing up” excuse during their Senatorial confirmations, one day. If that was today, they’d be shoo ins for SCrOTUS or Cabinet positions. In the future, when their fat turns come around? Let’s hope by then that the worm has turned, and fetid republican racism will no longer be acceptable, and these cunts get shown the door.

    They deserve to have their futures fucked by their present. Racist, obese cunts, whose genetics are a curse on humanity. Fuck them, and all republicans. With a cactus. No lube!

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      I heard someone make a good, frightening point. Trump has been a political force for over a decade now. There are a generation of young people who only know MAGA politics. To them that is normal. They’ve never seen a functional government in their adult lives.

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        Idk bro. I’m almost 40 and I’ve never seen a functional government either.

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          It reads like you’re at least as mad about them being obese as you are about everything else.

          Or are you just using obese to mean bad?

          Might want to work on your messaging.

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    I wonder what kind of conversations Vance had with his wife about these kinds of things? Or his children…

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    “Kids do stupid things,” he continued. “Especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes. That’s what kids do.”

    I was a young, stupid, conservative boy. Most of my jokes were Strong Bad related. I didn’t at any time glorify Hitler.

    These kids need an intervention, not apologia.

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        I did. I said all sorts of offensive shit with varying degrees of understanding how offensive. HOWEVER, that does not mean I didn’t expect and face accountability for my actions. That’s part of it. That’s how dumb young men grow into sane, understanding, and well adjusted people. We fuck up, we learn, we improve.

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          Yeah I said all sorts of shit I never believed. Felt like none of it mattered and racism wasn’t real etc etc because I was a dumb privileged kid. Once I talked to people different than me and thought for like forty seconds I realized how stupid I was and how I’d been getting sucked down a right wing rabbit hole.

          None of it excuses my actions and these dumb young Republicans are actively trying to enforce their racist beliefs.

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            Did you do it on a recorded medium, so everyone would find out, all while having political leadership aspirations?

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          I grew up progressive and we said all the dumb racist shit too. And then my mom beat the shit out of me in front of the neighborhood as a small child. I didn’t say racist shit after that. Pretty sure nobody did. I lived in a place where “you see what happens??” was common parenting. One to many public beatings and we all learned to stfu and know our role.

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        My teenage friends and I were edgy to well past the point of being vile. The only one of us making “Hitler was right” jokes was a Jew who was complaining about his parents and we always told him to shut the fuck up.

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        I did. All my friends and I were a bunch of edge lords with upper middle class/old money backgrounds. We never said that shit in front of any adults though because back then it was still a bad thing to do at all. However, I grew out of it and they never did…

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            True, but I will say this, it doesn’t matter how old any of them are or even if they fought in WW2; many of them still held very shitty views of anyone that was poor or not white. Most of the people in power during the Civil Rights movement were WW2 vets and they did not stop being racist after defeating fascism.

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                You are not wrong at all. Sadly though, when Communism became the head issue, most anti-fascist rhetoric and ideas went out the window including actually punishing all former Nazis.

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      These are the same people who argue that spanking kids is necessary to correct them. It’s interesting how selective they are about punishing certain things.

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      For me my friends and I joke about everything except stuff like pedophilia. In our minds with how shit the world is we are just like “guess we’ll just laugh at everything” cuz we’d rather laugh and feel happy than be saddened or bad with everything else going on. And I personally think it’s ok to do that and joke about hitler type stuff but not if you’re someone who is in office you have a diff standard to uphold than people like my friends a I.

      We just love dark fucked up humor

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        So something to consider is if you keep making those jokes you will unconsciously start to internalize it. If not you then one of your friends. It’s just how brains work.

        I sarcastically make fucked up jokes with my friends too but only ones I know already don’t hold those positions and only when it’s clear that we are being sarcastic or pretending to be dumb fucks.

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          Eh we only do it with people we’re close with. And I believe it’s fine if you’re joking sure you sound like an asshole who cares gotta have fun.

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    “Young republicans”

    30-40 year old reject beasts trying to angle skin color as their claim to supremacy

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    “Kids do stupid things,” he continued.

    Sure. I did stupid stuff. I never glorified the extermination of 11 million people though.

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    Dogshit nazi cunt administration. The entire GOP should be welded in a box, prison is too gentle for these freaks

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    “Focus on the real issues,” he said. “Don’t focus on what kids say in group chats.” He then suggested that whoever leaked the racist messages is a “scumbag.”

    “Kids do stupid things,” he continued. “Especially young boys. They tell edgy, offensive jokes. That’s what kids do.”

    I knew it! Did he quote those harmless jokes? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

    It also bears noting that while “Young Republicans” may sound like a group composed of baby-fresh, underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes, the national organization accepts members of the Republican Party between the ages of 18 and 40.

    But this is much worse imo:

    Vance (…) downplayed the texts by comparing them to a leaked message from Jay Jones, the Democratic nominee for Virginia attorney general. Jones has come under fire this month after 2022 text messages in which he expressed a desire to shoot the former Virginia House speaker were made public.

    “This is far worse than anything said in a college group chat, and the guy who said it could become the AG of Virginia. I refuse to join the pearl clutching when powerful people call for political violence,” Vance wrote Tuesday on social media. Jones has, in fact, been condemned by members of his own party. Jones is also one man, making condemnable statements, not a large group of politically minded individuals producing, sharing, and celebrating the very hate they claim to revile.

    Exactly. Demeaning and violent slurs against big parts of the population, even calling for their extermination, is on a whole different level to one person saying they want one other person dead. It’s no comparison, but it’s clever propaganda.

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      focus on the real issues

      Oh you mean like the fact that the upcoming new generation of YOUR PARTY is openly praising Hitler?

      Seems like a pretty real issue to me.

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      Kids (aka actual adults) say some horrible racist things. No big deal!

      Someone says some honest thing about Kirk like he was a hate monger but didn’t deserve to die. Kill this removed and make sure they will never work in the US again!!

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    Men 18-40 spouting racist, bigoted, and antisemitic things are “young boys”.

    However, when it’s girls, minors, that are sexually assaulted, they are “young women.”

    That really is quite the uncomfortable double standard.

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      Until they get older and get a job where they need to be taken seriously. Then they’ll transition to girls again.

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      Vocabulary matters. You’re pointing to a very similar journalistic/political bias. The most obvious of which is that “Israeli citizen slaughtered by terrorists!” vs. “253 Palestinians lost after strategic Israeli strike”

      My favorite is the “Israeli Kidnapped from tank”. Not even kidding.

      Describing IDF soldiers and illegal settlers (prisoners of war) as “hostages” vs. Palestinian children, adults, all held without trial by Israel in what could only be described as concentration camps, as “prisoners”.

      Once you start noticing this type of passive/active language bias you start to recognize it everywhere.

      Some of it is unconscious. A result of living in patriarchy and white supremacy. Most often from normies that have been trained to use that language. But, when it comes to media, it is almost always intentional to manufacture concent for the narrative they are trying to form.

      Check out “title history” of news articles and you’ll see in real time how this language adapts to the response of viewers or internal critics trying to ensure the correct conclusion is reached by the reader.

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        Followup for those interested: read Manufactured Consent. This world has been poisoned by people with evil deep in their hearts and malice on their tongues.

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          When you have two major political parties and both are politically Right Wing, Manufactured Consent starts to feel normal to people.

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      Sort of like how RFK Jr could just dismiss sexual assault allegations from when he was in his mid 40s as being part of being a “very rambunctious youth.”

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      These absolute garbage individuals literally called rape epic, the double standard is coming from them and the people in their party who excuse it, and then the media normalizes it.

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      Men 18-40 spouting racist, bigoted, and antisemitic things

      Is evolution working as intended…

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3029708/

      The same neurotransmitter (oxytocin) that causes love, humans to group up, and not be repulsed by incredibly disgusting kids…

      Causes (especially for straight men) an intense hatred for literally anyone who you weren’t socialized as a toddler around because they ain’t “us”. They’re “them” or an out-group.

      That’s why the right goes so hard against diversity in media, why they lost their shit over Drag story hour.

      Because humans are animals, and if we’re not properly socialized as children, shit goes all Lord of the Flies, every time. You want a generation of racist white guys who hate anyone that ain’t straight? You need to shield them completely from everything that’s not that during their formative years, and that’s what the right has been doing.

      Everyone wants to pretend they pick random shit, but the people driving it are obscenely wealthy, and even if they’re not smart enough to figure out the psychology, they’ll pay someone to do it.

      And for decades neoliberals played I to it, because they’re paid by the same wealthy people to keep everyone divided.

      We gave up on the kids, and it’s gonna be impossible to win the lost ones back. We can still teach them critical thinking, but in 40 years when they’re 60, they’re gonna be a new maga. Just from how the normal aging process works. As we lose mental ability, we fall back on ingroup/outgroup.

      Gen alpha is a boomer timebomb waiting to happen…

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        Gen alpha is a boomer timebomb waiting to happen…

        It might be even much worse if the algorithms are allowed to continue unabated and people do less and less civic-minded things, in person. I think part of the thesis of “Bowling for Columbine” is that starting some time ago, lots and lots of people doing things within their community as groups, in-person has had a steep drop-off.

        I think I remember Masons talking about how boomers were almost missing from many of their lodges. Not sure of the reason for that, but due to things like Dan Brown, there was an uptick among Gen X joining up. I still think it’s probably way down for community groups of all kinds, generation after generation.

        At least boomers are the ones still showing up to many in-person things. I don’t know what the civic engagement is for Gen X and younger…also, the boomers had a lot of fantastic ideas, some of the first to really go mainstream was with their generation. I think many of them were some of the first to be socialized in the broader sense, too. It’s just that Ronnie Raygunism came along and started building things like Faux and hate radio to capture that demo in particular…but I’m not fooled by the common trope of the boomer stereotype we keep seeing and blaming it all on them. I think that’s overlooking a lot by using a convenient scapegoat, especially now that most of the Silent Generation is disappearing, and nearly all (?) of the Greatest Generation is gone.

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          This is why I believe that building up community spaces is truly the way forward.

          Mutual aid is the foundation of society, but we Americans have let that part of our culture deteriorate and instead promoted the “self-made individual” as the heroic ideal.

          Although it doesn’t seem vital, promoting pro-social spaces is critical to getting people to engage with their community and expand the “tribe” to include more degrees of separation.

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            I’ve often wondered about the physical spaces of churches - not the mega-churches, I’m talking about the ones that mostly seem to be sitting empty, as xtianity is dwindling in this country.

            I wonder about some kind of mass movement that could be turned to using those spaces for more and more civic and secular activities that are not affiliated with the church (but maybe find some way to offset the costs of the church - pay some nominal rental fee, etc) set up as a neutral meeting ground.

            Things like maker spaces, meetups of all kinds (think meetup.com), game nights, etc. Ideally, every day/night of the week not already reserved for something in the church.

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          Reagan was a product of the newly established Southern Strategy, which has turned out to be very successful in its goals.