• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    So: extortion.

    That’s what we are talking about here, right?

    Not that it would happen, but I would so love for everyone to be remembering all these people for later prosecution under different leadership when Taco’s gone.

    These assholes should go to fucking prison for this.

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      This is a HORRIBLE Idea! If Democrats PROSECUTE these Republican Criminals then the Republican Criminals MIGHT turn Around and make Democrats STRAIGHT UP ILLEGAL BY LABELING THEM TERRORISTS! Which will ONLY happen if Democrats make the First Move!

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        Not to mention both Sinclair and Nexstar are publicly traded companies. Surely getting involved in politics to the point where you are denying your viewership popular programing would eventually negatively affect shareholder value?

        I think if I had shares in either of these companies I’d be questioning the leadership of the organization.

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          These are MAGA companies that have been slowly pushing more and more propaganda on to the public airwaves. They firmly believe that their viewer base won’t be losing that many viewers and are counting on MAGA’s, rightly so probably, to cover for the loss.

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            Nexstar already has an almost 40% reach across the US. They’ve been sucking up to Trump this year because they want to merge with TEGNA, which would give them access to 80% of the country. To do this though, regulations need to be dropped to allow them to exceed limits that have been in place for decades to prevent this level of media control. This is the quid-pro-quo for them, as Colbert was for the Paramount merger.

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            As Deadline’s Dade Hayes reported, the merger “challenges decade-old limits on control of local media” as the new company would control 265 local TV stations across 44 states and the District of Columbia, representing about 80 percent of American households. This would far exceed the current limit of 39 percent, which has been in place for the past three decades through both Democratic and Republican administrations.

            Making his intentions crystal clear shortly after Trump’s 2024 electoral victory that he sought an end to the broadcast station ownership cap, Sook declared in November that he hoped GOP control of government would help usher in an expansion of his company.

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            Also could just be a general concept of investments… IE we lose 10 million here for canceling this show, we make 100 million in the merger we want to do next year.

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      The thing that’s great about this fascism run is that we have the fucking internet.

      Whenever this shit falls apart, many of those folks will literally have no choice but to self-deport or go to jail.

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        I sure hope someone is keeping stock. Taco himself does so many egregious acts that I can barely keep up with what he did this week, nevermind what he’s done so far in this disastrous second term.

        There are often times when someone will bring up something from his first disastrous term and I’ll have this feeling of - oh yeah, how could I have forgotten about that?

        And that’s just him. Then there are all the things being done on his behalf by all his Little Eichmanns both when he was in office and not…there is a lot to track. And some of these assholes are so old - like, say, Roger Stone or Bannon - that they will likely die of old age before they get properly sent to (or back to) prison.

        I have a feeling a lot of them are going to definitely attempt to do the modern equivalent of burn their Nazi uniforms afterwards, too, and the “liberal media” will do all the heavy lifting to sane wash these dickheads as much as possible. So I’m sure many, probably most, will escape justice.

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          Keeping track of liberal accusations is likely a crime.

          I can certainly say that Trump never intimidated a witness such that his name would never end up on a list of pedophile buddies by famed pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

          Trump also never invited a riot on Jan 6 that aimed to overthrow the constitutional process

          He also certainly never solicited bribes from corporations for his inauguration.

          And he would never, NEVER break the Posse Comitatus Act in his occupations of LA, DC, and Chicago.

          That’s why I will never keep track of these far left woke accusations.

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        I don’t know if the rot can be cleansed without a complete collapse of the country, which won’t have the infrastructure to go after the fascists.

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      Cute of you to think a subsequent government won’t be a) Trump 2.0 or b) quick to try and forget everything that just happened under the guise of “return to normalcy”.

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    This is what allowing media consolidation got you, Democrats. Sinclair has been putting its thumb on the scale for decades and you did nothing, even while they were having a measurable negative impact to Democratic support.

    Perhaps most blatantly:

    Sinclair executive David Smith met with Donald Trump during the 2016 election year, in which he told the future president, “We are here to deliver your message.”

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      Yeah! The Democrats are the real villains here!! Not the actual fascists running the show, doing the evil, pulling the triggers, deporting the innocent, ignoring the laws… Fuck off with this hindsight blame game shit. Fascism is here and the real blame lies on the American people.

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        It’s probably another example of Murc’s Law. And once you see Murc’s Law in action, you can never unsee it. You’ll see it everywhere, and every day.

        https://whereofonecanspeak.com/2023/03/02/youve-probably-never-heard-of-murcs-law-but-youve-seen-it-in-action-lots-of-times/

        Murc’s law is named after the insight of the eponymous LGM commenter that, in American politics, only Democrats are assumed to have agency. Republicans are like rocks rolling down hill or perhaps sharks eating seals: they do what they do because that’s just what they are, so there’s no point in holding them responsible for anything, since they could not do o[t]herwise.

        [emphasis mine]

        That great description from : https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/12/the-paradoxical-limits-of-murcs-law

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            But it’s also very accurate because the right simply doesn’t listen. They might as well be literal rocks. There is no discussion or debate to be had because they don’t follow your reality or logic.

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            Yeah, I’ve seen/heard it mentioned before, but The Professional Left podcast brought it up again. I’m fairly certain I’ve heard them mention it over the years, multiple times.

            https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-933-meanwhile-in-local-fascism/id352076108?i=1000727128679

            Anyway, it provides convenient shorthand for something you just read/hear all the freaking time. It’s like ever since I became politically aware, decades ago, it’s been there, but hard to put a name to. I’m sure this goes way, way back to at least the 1950s: “The Democrats made the Republicans form the John Birch Society!”

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          Get the fuck out of here, stop excusing the Democrats. If they had any guts, or loyalty, they would have been popular enough to defeat these Republicans posing an existential threat to the Republic they claim to represent.

          After the last three presidential shit shows in a row and you are still excusing these Democrats like they are doing an acceptable job? We already knew what the Republicans were, and we did nothing to stop them, or Worse believed The Establishment Democrats were able and willing to stop them. Fuck your law. The Democrats are fucking worthless and it’s about time you admit you made a mistake so we can get opposition leaders that can win.

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            Who is excusing the Democrats? What do you want people to do, right now? The Democrats have next to no power right now. Why are they getting all the blame for everything that Republicans do?

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              I want people to demand new leadership in the Democratic Party. To demand every establishment fuck resigns their seat in the party leadership.

              Which does not even touch on how somehow we have not had a single Challenger for house or senate, or the fucking presidency last year. What is wrong with this party? I know the answer I want you to think about it.

              Because there is no way we get rid of our current government under the leadership of this opposition party.

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                Oh, don’t get it twisted: I have my issues with the Democratic Party. Many things drive me crazy about the party. The “moderates” within the party like Manchin. Or the turncoat Fetterman. And just where the fuck have most of them been under this regime? Schumer is supposed to be our firebrand?

                And we have a whole lot of supposed activists that seem mostly fired up about identity politics instead of old-school labor activism. Preoccupied with being liberal scolds and trying to shame and ostracize people who might not use the most updated terms for all things, or not be 100% on board for all things left, but might be 80% there. Further polarizing and pushing away people who should be our allies, even if they are merely “pale males”. We had better get as many votes from everyone as possible. If we are only seeking votes from the winners of the Oppression Olympics, we are well and truly fucked.

                But as far as actionable things…how do you propose to make anyone you’ve deemed as “establishment” resign? Did you campaign for a challenger? Do we have a stable of challengers somewhere that are viable? All this shit takes money, too - what billionaires are helping to fund any of this?

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                  We need to take the d party from state and county level, and national, and when that fails, as I expect it will for the DCCC, they should be frozen out, mocked, ridiculed, and an alternative organization built out.

                  Az did as much years back, but they did not have the support of any big picture National Organization to be able to build out an alternate organization as the moderates hid their lists and valuable information and give it to their own alternative organization.

                  We will never be able to get a stable of Challengers with the party actively suppressing them as we speak. The first step is organizing and getting rid of these hacks that failed us three elections in a row and continue to not realize their mistake.

                  Finding good candidates needs to be on some forum, perhaps in numerable groups Federated on a national, or International forum where people could cooperate on what they agree on both publicly and privately, where we could find and groom political candidates. But also too work on Collective actions, like if you do not support this thing this many of us will not vote for you type stuff. It would have to be Federated because if not they would find some illegality and illegalize the entire thing. They might do so anyway.

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        Bad take. It’s not hindsight when everyone was screaming about it, again, literally over a decade ago, and no attempt was made by the Obama or Biden era FCC to regulate it. Maybe you personally weren’t aware of how dangerous this issue was becoming, but many of us were, including, importantly, Democrats in Congress.

        When a train is heading for you, and you see it several minutes away, it’s also your responsibility to step off the tracks before it actually runs you over.

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          So you’re saying that the Republicans planned for this, set in motion the plan and executed the plan, but the Democrats let it happen so it’s on them. Why, I think that’s a page right out of the narcissist handbook.

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            No, that’s the straw man you’ve created and attributed to me. I’m not going to continue this discussion, because it’s predicated on reading comprehension and good faith.

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              Ooh you’re one of those types. Gotcha. Enjoy the fall of America from your high horse, buddy!

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    It’d be fantastic if Kimmel just says “fuck you” and donates to as many causes that Carotid Artery Charlie absolutely HATED and railed against as possible

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      A donation to a charity focusing on ending gun violence would be an excellent fuck you if he wanted to pretend to be diplomatic about it.

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      Kimmel should post a full-throated denunciation of these media conglomerates capitulation and launch his own show.

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        He and Colbert and Stewart should legit start a new network and just constantly troll the regime. Maybe get Al Franken too - I’m still pretty livid about how he got character assassinated by the fucking DNC.

        Hell, maybe they can rope in some actual progressive members of congress (AOC, Tlaib, Sanders, Porter, and so on - but absolutely not the ones who only pay lip service, and fucking NONE of the old guard or corporatists or neoliberals or political consultant class) and seriously bootstrap an actual progressive party to challenge and supplant the Democratic Party. If they were to do that, I’d definitely be willing volunteer my time and expertise to help them make it work.

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            You think the FCC could stop it? None of the openly fascist owned media will carry it regardless of the money it might make them. Because it isn’t about making money it’s about controlling the narrative.

            They should pool their funds and set up streams online. YouTube, Floatplane, peer tube, Patreon, merch etc. Each one of them is pretty well set for life. They can be their own bosses and do what they love.

            I generally watched their monologues and segments on YouTube anyway. No one has the time or interest in watching the desert of entertainment content on broadcast tv anymore anyhow.

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      The fact that he hasn’t made any statement about this situation yet strongly suggests that he’s got them stick straight legs. Guy’s got plenty of money, and now, more attention on him than he’s probably ever had in his life. From a “making his way in the world” perspective, he’s fine.

      Let the fascists keep digging a while, no reason to say anything at all until the absolute right moment presents itself.

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        He’s got a few hundred employees that are out of work. I wouldn’t be surprised if he bends if only to keep their paychecks.

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          He’s not getting the show back, not without agreeing to be nice which defeats the fucking purpose. The president said as much after he got Colbert fired, that Kimmel was next. Appeasing them will not fix anything it will only make them worse. Making these appeasers pay for their Craven betrayal will help.

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            As Pritzker said just yesterday, there are consequences to standing up, but the consequences of not standing up are so much worse.

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              Pritzker is the expert on not standing up. Seeing as he did not stand up in 2024 when we needed somebody that could win the Democratic presidential race, and he chose not to. Apparently bad faith bigotry allegations are enough to prevent our Democratic leaders from saving our country from an unthinkable irreversible results. Newsom too. Both failed america and have forfeited there right to run for presidency in the future.

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                Illinois has done a metric fuckton of good things under his watch, not the least of which is Little t backing down on sending Texas National Guard to Chicago.

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                  Yet by not standing up and taking the presidency they did an inquantifiably larger amount of damage.

                  Why are the leaders in opposition to the Republicans all fucking cunts? That’s a good question, what is not in question is that pritzker is one of said cunts in question. No challenge for house leadership, senate leadership, not the presidency, not even with a universally unpopular candidate that never breached 30% approval offering zero reform running as the status quo in 2024.

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          That’s also true, and I’d bet he and his people are in discussions with them and with other platforms already. The lack of a statement from him to date would go along with that, too.

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      I doubt he does. He is probably staying quiet for now, checking with lawyers on if there is any recourse.

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      Media giant Sinclair called on Jimmy Kimmel to apologize directly to Charlie Kirk’s family over remarks he made about the conservative activist’s killing, and to give both them and Turning Point USA a “meaningful personal donation.”

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      It is Sinclair though, they are the unnamed affiliate from the headline. They own 39% of ABC local stations nationwide (officially, with more through shell corps), which is why they were able to pull this bs. Although, I’m sure ABC/Disney would have folded anyways with the FCC threatening them.

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          No worries, it would be far more accurate of the headline to list it as sinclair media anyways instead of a nameless affiliate.

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    Fuck them. The fuckstick that got his jugular aerated had a net worth of $12 million. His rancid widow is going to be fine.