Mexico’s 120 million citizens will begin to enjoy free, universal access to healthcare from next year, following a decree by socialist president Claudia Sheinbaum.
What really makes me chuckle is whenever someone tries to insist to me that Mexican men are chauvinists, and I have to remind them that not only did they elect a woman, but they elected a woman who is doing FDR shit and actually making people’s lives better.
I’m jealous. The closest we got was Bernie and both parties swift-boated him.
Come on, now, be fair, I love dunking on liberals as much as the next leftist, but “Mexican men aren’t chauvinists” is hardly a conservative position, as leftists aren’t we supposed to make the argument that no people are a monolith?
chauvinism, excessive and unreasonable patriotism, similar to jingoism. The word is derived from the name of Nicolas Chauvin, a French soldier who, satisfied with the reward of military honours and a small pension, retained a simpleminded devotion to Napoleon. Chauvin came to typify the cult of the glorification of all things military that was popular after 1815 among the veterans of Napoleon’s armies. Later, chauvinism came to mean any kind of ultranationalism and was used generally to connote an undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs. The term chauvinism also may describe an attitude of superiority toward members of the opposite sex, as in male chauvinism. Some animal-rights advocates have used the term to indicate a similar attitude on the part of human beings toward other species, as in “species chauvinism.”
According to this definition from Britannica, men, women, trans people, etc can also be chauvinist. Men can be male chauvinist, in that they think they are the “superior gender”. But that doesn’t exclude the concept of female chauvinism.
The concept of a “woman chauvinist” is irrelevant. It literally does not matter. What’s going to happen, are women going to take over society and force men into servitude? Stop them from leaving the house without an escort? Make them give up their careers? 🙄
In a society that was built by men, for men, men’s chauvinism is a problem and an unconscious bias they all carry with them from a very young age. There’s a lifetime of unlearning that men need to do to not be chauvinists. Any man who has gone through this process to rid themselves of their chauvinism has no problem with statements like “men are chauvinists” because they know it’s true.
No it isn’t true, because it’s a broad stereotyping and generalization based upon “they who scream loudest” and negates any local culture or even considers the concept of a silent majority. Basically you’re throwing billions of people and thousands of cultures under the bus cause it makes you feel superior.
It’s the same kind of thinking that helps to create more chauvenists, because you’re basically feeding people the “us vs them” mentality, also known as “otherisms”, that is the bread and butter of fascist, nationalists and the like that want you to think in those terms - because that allows them to prey on weak and infirm, who feel powerless to that type of shaming tactic, which then makes them go against the concept of humanism, because “all men bad” is empirically untrue. That then gives them an opening to think in the terms of their oppressor, because it is STILL a class struggle.
You want it to be true as a matter of toxic mentality - which includes toxic femininity, which is the core of TERF thinking - and rhetoric as a tactic to try and shame people into being agreeable to your point. But it will instead have the opposite effect, which means your mentality and false axioms cause more harm than good. In effect it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, because it is blatant disinformation that refuses to see the actual problems of the world. That’s why the world of psychiatry has said it clearly: “men bad” basically becomes a feedback loop.
If you think bro casts, think tanks and political interests are a 1:1 with the thinking of the general populace, you have put on the jogging suit and drink deeply from the KoolAid bowl because it is cheaper than therapy.
When you use terms like “them”, I can’t help but think that you’re misandrist - and as I tell people all the time: misandry is just the other side of the patriarchy coin, opposite to misogyny. That in turn feeds the fire of chauvenism.
Landed and gentlemen, the troll who literally never makes a comment on this platform other than to try and demoralize a doomed society of millions of people. Torturing people like this is clearly all you ever think about. It’s pathetic and you desperately need mental help.
Did more white people voted for Obama too? Because in Mexico, more men voted her than women did, relatively speaking. Also, our first black president was elected like 200 years ago.
Correct, the major reason she won the elections is because she was supported by her predecessor. (There was another female candidate too!)
We can’t ignore that since AMLO was in power he started a daily televised show that acts as state propaganda and one of his missions was to “continue the 4th transformation” as in “you need to vote for my party no matter who it is”.
(US citizens will relate to the propaganda right now with the White House putting up press conferences almost daily to convince people that they are winning while trying to police which press is ‘good’ and which is ‘bad’)
You can see the chauvinism in some of the criticisms coming to Claudia, I don’t agree with any of that misogynist bullshit but a lot of people are angry with her and the only thing they can say is “we won’t have another female president”.
Franklin D. Roosevelt, a US president who in the 1930’s ended the great depression by finally implementing some social welfare programs and reining in corporate power somewhat (like protecting the right to unionize) to prevent a socialist revolution.
All accurate beyond debate except for the part about his social programs ending the depression. That point is debatable, the debate being that it was actually deficit spending to industrialize for WW2 that did it.
What really makes me chuckle is whenever someone tries to insist to me that Mexican men are chauvinists, and I have to remind them that not only did they elect a woman, but they elected a woman who is doing FDR shit and actually making people’s lives better.
I’m jealous. The closest we got was Bernie and both parties swift-boated him.
They are horribly chauvinistic.
Let’s play a game. The US elected Obama so they are not racist riiight?
I see the point you’re getting at, but this is too big of a debate for Saturday morning. :)
Have a great day.
Ladies and gentlemen, white US liberals when confronted with their shitty conservative positions. Saving this- it’s a such a perfect encapsulation.
Come on, now, be fair, I love dunking on liberals as much as the next leftist, but “Mexican men aren’t chauvinists” is hardly a conservative position, as leftists aren’t we supposed to make the argument that no people are a monolith?
Men are chauvinists. This is not somehow unique to Mexico.
According to this definition from Britannica, men, women, trans people, etc can also be chauvinist. Men can be male chauvinist, in that they think they are the “superior gender”. But that doesn’t exclude the concept of female chauvinism.
The concept of a “woman chauvinist” is irrelevant. It literally does not matter. What’s going to happen, are women going to take over society and force men into servitude? Stop them from leaving the house without an escort? Make them give up their careers? 🙄
In a society that was built by men, for men, men’s chauvinism is a problem and an unconscious bias they all carry with them from a very young age. There’s a lifetime of unlearning that men need to do to not be chauvinists. Any man who has gone through this process to rid themselves of their chauvinism has no problem with statements like “men are chauvinists” because they know it’s true.
No it isn’t true, because it’s a broad stereotyping and generalization based upon “they who scream loudest” and negates any local culture or even considers the concept of a silent majority. Basically you’re throwing billions of people and thousands of cultures under the bus cause it makes you feel superior.
It’s the same kind of thinking that helps to create more chauvenists, because you’re basically feeding people the “us vs them” mentality, also known as “otherisms”, that is the bread and butter of fascist, nationalists and the like that want you to think in those terms - because that allows them to prey on weak and infirm, who feel powerless to that type of shaming tactic, which then makes them go against the concept of humanism, because “all men bad” is empirically untrue. That then gives them an opening to think in the terms of their oppressor, because it is STILL a class struggle.
You want it to be true as a matter of toxic mentality - which includes toxic femininity, which is the core of TERF thinking - and rhetoric as a tactic to try and shame people into being agreeable to your point. But it will instead have the opposite effect, which means your mentality and false axioms cause more harm than good. In effect it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, because it is blatant disinformation that refuses to see the actual problems of the world. That’s why the world of psychiatry has said it clearly: “men bad” basically becomes a feedback loop.
If you think bro casts, think tanks and political interests are a 1:1 with the thinking of the general populace, you have put on the jogging suit and drink deeply from the KoolAid bowl because it is cheaper than therapy.
When you use terms like “them”, I can’t help but think that you’re misandrist - and as I tell people all the time: misandry is just the other side of the patriarchy coin, opposite to misogyny. That in turn feeds the fire of chauvenism.
I.e you’re apart of the problem.
If given the chance, sure.
After all, they’re only human…
“You cant be a bigot if you have a [POC/LGBTQ/whatever else] friend” is certainly a hallmark of conservative discourse
Landed and gentlemen, the troll who literally never makes a comment on this platform other than to try and demoralize a doomed society of millions of people. Torturing people like this is clearly all you ever think about. It’s pathetic and you desperately need mental help.
Did more white people voted for Obama too? Because in Mexico, more men voted her than women did, relatively speaking. Also, our first black president was elected like 200 years ago.
Agreed. And with sexism, the link is even weaker.
America is only 15% black so it at least suggests that a good chunk of the other 85% were not too racist to elect Obama.
But humanity is 52% women so in theory, women could elect a woman even if every man in the country was in fact chauvinist.
Obama refused to publicly acknowledge he was black until his last year of his second term.
Correct, the major reason she won the elections is because she was supported by her predecessor. (There was another female candidate too!)
We can’t ignore that since AMLO was in power he started a daily televised show that acts as state propaganda and one of his missions was to “continue the 4th transformation” as in “you need to vote for my party no matter who it is”.
(US citizens will relate to the propaganda right now with the White House putting up press conferences almost daily to convince people that they are winning while trying to police which press is ‘good’ and which is ‘bad’)
You can see the chauvinism in some of the criticisms coming to Claudia, I don’t agree with any of that misogynist bullshit but a lot of people are angry with her and the only thing they can say is “we won’t have another female president”.
Lol, yeah, like 70% approval rate, but I see your point. 30M people out of 100M voters are angry with her, I guess. I mean, they are a lot.
You should not take any “approval polls” seriously. Just look at MAGAs.
If anything these same polls were saying Xóchitl was gonna win
What is FDR?
Franklin D. Roosevelt, a US president who in the 1930’s ended the great depression by finally implementing some social welfare programs and reining in corporate power somewhat (like protecting the right to unionize) to prevent a socialist revolution.
The irony…
TL;DR he was just a pussy who implemented pro worker laws just to deter socialist USSR influence
God I love the Fediverse.
Feels weird, but I just love that people answer questions and aren’t jerks about it.
The chillness of this place has been pretty awesome, and I very much want to perpetuate that chillness and goodwill as best I can :)
Just don’t admit to using windows or mac LOL
Depends on the question.
Lemmy, why is windows so much better than Linux?
Windows 7 has much better compatibility with 2000’s era apps than Linux.
Really? I would have expected wine to be pretty good at them.
Because fuck you that’s why.
Oh look, an extra $20 in my bank account! Thanks…Not Microsoft
¿Por qué no los dos?
All accurate beyond debate except for the part about his social programs ending the depression. That point is debatable, the debate being that it was actually deficit spending to industrialize for WW2 that did it.
That’s fair, I guess FDR at least started the ball rolling toward fixing it before we entered the war.
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