Senate Democrats are cautiously optimistic about a potential agreement to fund the Department of Homeland Security. But it’s far from a done deal.
As negotiations ramp up on Capitol Hill to end the Department of Homeland Security shutdown, Senate Democrats seem to be clinging to a particular word: reforms.
It was a term party leaders used in the context of Immigration and Customs Enforcement nearly two dozen times during a March 24 news conference.
The refrain threw cold water on a new GOP compromise to fund the critical agency — minus ICE’s enforcement and removal operations — and end a crisis that has upended air travel across the country.
“Democrats are continuing to push for modest reforms,” Washington Sen. Patty Murray, the top Democrat on the Senate Appropriations Committee, told reporters. “The current Republican offer in front of us does not do that.”
“Push for moderate reforms” where the complete removal of the ICE agency and build-up of a new replacement is needed.
And they think this will go well with voters?
Now is not the time to criticize Democrats, it’s an election year! I expect you to do all campaigning when it matters least. /s
Everyone ready to get violent yet?
Absolutely nothing will change until we do. So let’s organize.
I said go and get your fucking shine box
This is the face of a failed democracy. Those little blue wins. Lol. It’s the adjustment the ss needs. Your plans for the no kings picnic. That’s a joke. You actually think that is going to stop this?? You really are giving project 2025 it’s bloodless coup. Enjoy the fanfiction of 1984 and bridesmaids tail.
Have Republicans tried PROMISING to MAYBE think about SOME word like Reforms if they Pass the Bill with NO Changes? That USUALLY works Pretty well on Democrats!
Another sacred unbreakable pinky promise?
They don’t even have to break any promises! Just promise to hold a vote for whatever the Democrats are wanting at a later date, then vote against it when the time comes. Worked great last time!
If shmucker lets the save act pass. I swear to God…
Well, I’m sure the SAVE act would really make the Baileys feel more safe.
Preemptive “fuck you, Chuck” for when he caves in.
Just let the government die at this point, don’t vote for any reforms other than abolishment entirely. CBP handled all of it just fine before ICE was even created to do the SAME FUCKING JOB.
The US government needs to be replaced. Along with 99% of Congress. The experiment has failed. Time cut our losses and try again.
ICE wasn’t created to do the same job. It was created because kicking out anyone who cares about rule of law or procedure from CBP would have taken much longer.
ICE was made a fascist strangling arm from the get-go, that’s why it is separate.
I can’t wait for them to end the shutdown with absolutely nothing to show for it again. Useless twats.
Yup fetterman and some other traitors will vote republican rendering all of this political theatre…
DHS does nothing important and it should never be funded again.
Waiting on Fettermann to fuck this up and Schumer to cave.
Y’all remember 5 years ago when all these shitstains couldn’t wear a mask to protect people from a plague? Suddenly they can breathe through them just fine.
I don’t think their face coverings are N95 tho.
Those fabric face coverings were illegal where mask mandates were in effect on public transportation in my city.
Shut down airports … what are we even talking about…shut it all down for the next 3 years…there is 0 room for negotiations until this administration is held to account and trials begin.
I got no problem with that. I wanted to keep it locked down last Fall.
I don’t like General Strikes. You think Trump is going to capitulate because we self-inflicted unemployment on ourselves? He’ll just think that’s hilarious.
No, instead of cutting off OUR money, let’s cut off THEIR money. That hurts THEM. You want money? Dance, Monkey, Dance.
A general strike does cut off the owner class’s money. How do you think they get money? They sure as hell aren’t getting their hands dirty and making anything. Their money comes from our labor. Sure, it also hurts workers (which is what strike funds are for), but it’s one of the few tools we have to hurt the owners.
European nations do general Strikes because they don’t have an alternative. America has the unique option of shutting off the GOVERNMENT’S money instead of our own. So why don’t we do what works best for US, instead of following the tired old European model, that simply won’t be effective in America?
We can try to hurt the Sociopathic Oligarchs with strikes, but they’ll just spend their endless fortunes fighting back. But if we hurt the politicians badly, and convincingly threaten them with more in the future, we can make them more afraid of US, than their desire for more money from the Sociopathic Oligarchs.
I just don’t see how self-inflicted wounds are going to convince MAGA psychopaths to behave. They. Don’t. Care. About. Us. We can hurt ourselves all day long, and they’ll just watch and laugh.
What politicians care about is themselves and their money, so hurt them in THEIR pocketbooks, not ours. That will wake them up real fast. We’re seeing it right now in this partial shutdown. They are flailing all over the place, but NOTHING is working for them, and everybody knows they are running out of all their options.
The SAVE Act will NOT be passed, and DHS will NOT be funded unless they take those masks off. This is due to the Dems hanging tough and not giving up this time, unlike that shameful, humiliating surrender last Fall. THAT government shutdown should still be going on.
For me, that was the last straw for the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Schumer. Those two loser need to get the hook and be dragged offstage.
To paraphrase General Patton: We won’t win by hurting ourselves, we will win by hurting THEM. So let’s hurt them real bad, in every way possible. That will make them listen.
Seriously. As much as the shit stains in charge are fucking everything up, I’d gladly endure a total shutdown of society as a whole if that’s what it takes to cut this cancerous corruption out.
I’m not making excuses for the dems complete lack of backbone, or their complicity in all the current horrors, but I do think this conversation should always acknowledge that many millions of (poor, undocumented, disabled) people would be utterly fucked during a total shutdown.
Not as fucked as they’d be if we did a shutdown and then ended it in exchange for nothing whatsoever.
Meanwhile, bOtH pArTiEs will continue to pretend that they need a “super majority” to pass legislation, even though they could change this parliamentary rule with a simple majority vote at any time.
Why do they do this? Why do they call the solution the “nuclear option”? why do people fall for this bullshit?
“Oh sorry, we couldn’t pass minimum wage, we need a super majority for that! We are the labor party uwu.”
“Oops! We wanted to make big cuts, but have instead decided to increase spending because of those darn Democrats! Gosh darnit!!”
Their full time job is playing golf, getting drunk, and fucking interns. Legislation is boring!
“We are stressed, we need a summer recess after spring recess, right before we have winter break, oh look it’s the holidays we need a vacation so tired.”
Best benefits in the world though, they are able to pass that somehow.
Both parties refuse to remove the limit because once one of them does, the other has no excuse not to. The GOP knows that they can basically get whatever they want in budget reconciliation (the one bill a year that ignores the filibuster) and the Dems know that if they actually start passing laws people will expect them to improve their material conditions. So it remains a useful fiction for both of them.
Don’t worry guys, Schumer has a proven ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, no chance this doesn’t end in some kind of capitulation that fails to get any concessions.
I don’t understand how requiring federal agents to show their face while working in an official capacity unless the situation requires to be covered for safety reasons is controversial. If they aren’t doing anything illegal, why do they feel the need to cover up like robbers?
Their demands are just have ice follow the same rules as police, which they already have to do. Which is extra ironic as it’s not like it’s done anything to help with how much the police abuse citizens
They’re trying to save ICE for use during a Democratic administration. This is how Senate Democrats are calculating their politics. They’re approaching this from the angle that the current admin is ruining ICE.
Like, they fundamentally support Iran war and regime change, and only oppose that this guy is doing it so badly.
Exactly. But others in this thread are using it as examples of how hard the dems are fighting for the people. Not to actually help us mind you just to make optics better
