She will run, and the DNC will sheepdog her like they did Bernie, keeping everyone herded up in the party until they realized they got fucked over, again.
Personally, I prefer Bernie as the main - we need as many years of progressive presidencies as possible. Having 8 of them with him as the lead, and another 8 of AOC, would be a good start to reforming America. Odds are, though, we will simply have AOC replace Bernie during one of his terms. VPs are meant to be backups for when a president isn’t able to hold office anymore.
I have the impression the thing that determines an election, isn’t age nor ability, but the possession of a lively personality. I would say that Bernie has enough personality to bury Krasnov.
I love Bernie and I would vote for him if he were on the ballot, but he has no business being president at this age. I think he recognizes that and that’s why he’s actively helping the new generation.
You ain’t wrong, but I said the same thing about him. Almost exactly. The biggest difference is I wouldn’t have to hold my nose to vote for Bernie, I genuinely like the dude and my policy quibbles come down to quibbles.
Rant incoming.
Hell, the DNC may run Bernie now that he’s old enough. Or they’ll pick a cop to lead the ticket where their side doesn’t like or trust the police. Anything as long as they don’t win. Their last big winners were Obama and Clinton, both of which were in their 40s. Can’t make that fucking mistake again I guess. Even on the R side it’s been middle aged people rather than geriatric motherfuckers since Reagan until Trump. When the fuck did someone decide that you can’t be president unless you were a billion years old? I want someone who represents the future and wants to take us there, not someone whose slogan is “I’ve seen the future, and it’s a better past…which I also saw because I lived through all of human history”.
It is from this standpoint that the World Socialist Web Site has exposed the fraudulent “Fighting Oligarchy” campaign mounted by Senator Bernie Sanders and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. The large turnouts at their rallies, as well as the huge participation in the April 5 and April 19 protests against the Trump administration, express the social anger among millions of working people and their desire to fight back. But Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez never indict capitalism as a system or call for a struggle against it. And they supported and hailed the Biden administration even as it was presiding over the greatest-ever accumulation of wealth on the part of the financial aristocracy.
For all their fulminations against the oligarchy, they carefully avoid advancing any demand that would deprive the billionaires of their ill-gotten riches. They pretend that society can be changed without a drastic redistribution of wealth, which requires the expropriation of the billionaires.
I am so fucking sick of people demanding perfection. In this case, perfection is very much the enemy of good. AOC and Sanders are some of the absolute best people currently a part of our political class. Insisting on perfection - especially when your definition of “perfection” would likely alienate a meaningful amount of people who currently support them - is counterproductive to the degree that I question whether people who say that shit are even arguing in good faith.
The person you replied to quoted World Socialist Website, which is run by a bunch of boomer edgelords who mentally never grew up and still thinks we’re still in the 1960s. The only socialist publisher worth reading is Jacobin, even though I may not agree everything with them.
You say “perfection”. What I think you meant to say was “principled anti capitalism”.
I’m not asking for perfection. I’m asking for literally any semblance of solidarity or anticapitalism.
Regardless, until a truly anti capitalist party gains power, the devolution into fascism will continue.
In 30 years, when the choice is between a dem who wants 15 genocides and a Republican who wants 16, yall will still be bleating this tired ass “perfection as an enemy of good” motto. Think of a new one, please. Or even try to start defining what your idea of “perfection” actually is.
“American genocide is a forgone conclusion, so I will give full support to the genocidal regime whether the color is red or blue”
This is why people call you blue maga. There is no red line. There is no amount of evil that would make you all start to consider the legitimacy of the US empire. You all will sacrifice however many Palestinian kids it takes to bide time till the next election cycle. All under the guise of pragmatic utilitarianism.
There’s a bunch - Booker (that was the whole point of the filibuster), the govs of CA, MI, MD, PA, IL, that TV sports guy, Mark Cuban, Elissa Slotkin, Katy Porter, Mayor Pete, and a lot more.
She will run, and the DNC will sheepdog her like they did Bernie, keeping everyone herded up in the party until they realized they got fucked over, again.
Bernie’s being doing some rallies with her recently. If I were to guess, Bernie’s not going to run for POTUS again, he’s going to endorse her.
Bernie could get the VP nod.
Personally, I prefer Bernie as the main - we need as many years of progressive presidencies as possible. Having 8 of them with him as the lead, and another 8 of AOC, would be a good start to reforming America. Odds are, though, we will simply have AOC replace Bernie during one of his terms. VPs are meant to be backups for when a president isn’t able to hold office anymore.
I would prefer Bernie as the main too, but given his age and heart condition, that’s not viable. :(
I have the impression the thing that determines an election, isn’t age nor ability, but the possession of a lively personality. I would say that Bernie has enough personality to bury Krasnov.
If we could stop floating ancient and/or billionaires, that would be greeeaat.
Bernie is the one exception though. The only exception.
I love Bernie and I would vote for him if he were on the ballot, but he has no business being president at this age. I think he recognizes that and that’s why he’s actively helping the new generation.
Things we can say now that biden is no longer running.
You ain’t wrong, but I said the same thing about him. Almost exactly. The biggest difference is I wouldn’t have to hold my nose to vote for Bernie, I genuinely like the dude and my policy quibbles come down to quibbles.
Rant incoming.
Hell, the DNC may run Bernie now that he’s old enough. Or they’ll pick a cop to lead the ticket where their side doesn’t like or trust the police. Anything as long as they don’t win. Their last big winners were Obama and Clinton, both of which were in their 40s. Can’t make that fucking mistake again I guess. Even on the R side it’s been middle aged people rather than geriatric motherfuckers since Reagan until Trump. When the fuck did someone decide that you can’t be president unless you were a billion years old? I want someone who represents the future and wants to take us there, not someone whose slogan is “I’ve seen the future, and it’s a better past…which I also saw because I lived through all of human history”.
The Great Sheepdog Tour
And both she and liberals will still keep defending the party after it.
Yes, she’s never questioned the party leadership or directions. :rolls eyes:
She’d be better in party leadership and not pursue the Presidency (yet).
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/04/24/mpeq-a24.html
I am so fucking sick of people demanding perfection. In this case, perfection is very much the enemy of good. AOC and Sanders are some of the absolute best people currently a part of our political class. Insisting on perfection - especially when your definition of “perfection” would likely alienate a meaningful amount of people who currently support them - is counterproductive to the degree that I question whether people who say that shit are even arguing in good faith.
The person you replied to quoted World Socialist Website, which is run by a bunch of boomer edgelords who mentally never grew up and still thinks we’re still in the 1960s. The only socialist publisher worth reading is Jacobin, even though I may not agree everything with them.
They never do. Anyone devaluing the best politicians we have on our side, is really only carrying water for fascists.
You say “perfection”. What I think you meant to say was “principled anti capitalism”.
I’m not asking for perfection. I’m asking for literally any semblance of solidarity or anticapitalism.
Regardless, until a truly anti capitalist party gains power, the devolution into fascism will continue.
In 30 years, when the choice is between a dem who wants 15 genocides and a Republican who wants 16, yall will still be bleating this tired ass “perfection as an enemy of good” motto. Think of a new one, please. Or even try to start defining what your idea of “perfection” actually is.
A false dichotomy, but even so, the math is simple. 15 is less than 16. Bad things WILL happen. Let’s try to stop at least SOME of them shall we?
“American genocide is a forgone conclusion, so I will give full support to the genocidal regime whether the color is red or blue”
This is why people call you blue maga. There is no red line. There is no amount of evil that would make you all start to consider the legitimacy of the US empire. You all will sacrifice however many Palestinian kids it takes to bide time till the next election cycle. All under the guise of pragmatic utilitarianism.
So if not her then who will it be?
Another neoliberal.
Shapiro from Pennsylvania. Pro-genocide, loves billionaires, condescending. Ticks all the boxes.
newsom. It’s already newsom.
The face, gender, or race doesn’t matter, it will be someone that’s not a threat to the existence of the neolib establishment.
Pritzker, maybe?
There’s a bunch - Booker (that was the whole point of the filibuster), the govs of CA, MI, MD, PA, IL, that TV sports guy, Mark Cuban, Elissa Slotkin, Katy Porter, Mayor Pete, and a lot more.