It’s also possible to criticize genocide support without bein’ like “sure genocide is bad when we support it or whatever, BUT…”

Some people will not vote to give genocide a mandate. Only a centrist can hate that.

I’m not advocating for trump,

It’s actually possible to dislike genocide regardless of which worthless shitstreak is supporting it.

But the US isn’t the only country selling them weapons.

That doesn’t make it conscionable.

I don’t see any other country in the world doing anything to stop Israel.

We didn’t need to continue selling them weapons.

Wait… what did Andy Kim do?

He’s the new manchin, all right. Right down to the same excuses for keeping him around.

Pennsylvania Democrats stayed home because the democrat they voted for betrayed them. Betraying them even harder is the only thing centrists are ever willing to do.

More pushback please.

They had an interest in common: both of them wanted Biden to do whatever Netanyahu wanted.

Only vaguely conscious of this guy from my nice safe seat abroad but IIRC he wasn’t exactly “establishment” in the first place?

I think everyone should have been suspicious when party leadership didn’t sabotage his campaign.

But I’m on the ground here and there were plenty of people that refused to listen to the words straight from Trump’s mouth. They held Muslims for Trump rallies. Their political and spiritual leaders told them to either vote for trump or abstain.

What did you expect would happen when centrists ditched the only common cause the party had with Muslims?

Take some responsibility and make the necessary changes.

Because the party never fucking will. Ever.

I refuse to accept the Democrats going more conservative on things like gay and women’s rights.

Remember that when they do. Because they absolutely will. Resist the temptation to just point to their opponent and excuse everything Democrats do on the grounds that Republicans are worse.

Why is it a wedge issue? Why are there pro-genocide Democrats? There shouldn’t even be pro-genocide Republicans.

Which apart from the moral issues, really made it seem like he was not prepared to handle our current political situation. Netanyahu was lying to him over and over, clearly wanting to support his fellow far-right candidate, and Biden just blithely pretended they were the best of allies,

Pretended? They were and remain the best of allies. US democracy was secondary to whatever Netanyahu wanted.

Instead she just kept trying to make everyone knew she approved of everything he did.

And the refrain from the pro-genocide center was “she can’t undermine him! WhAt Do YoU eXpEcT hEr tO dO?!” But they were silent when she moved to his right.

They didn’t need all Muslim voters.

They certainly acted like they wanted zero of them.

that can’t vote for a woman.

That wasn’t the reason and others have already given you receipts. You just can’t stand that your genocide isn’t as popular with Muslims as it is with centrists.

Oh wow. Democrats actually know how to party line vote instead of being complicit in the name of bipartisanship. Took them long enough to figure it out.

Didn’t you block me?

I misread. I’m sorry. I was wrong. I’m so used to people calling grieving families morons and gloating about the new levels of suffering they’re getting that I read what I expected to see instead of what was actually there.

Wanted you to see since curiously you didn’t respond to that thread.

I didn’t see your screenshots yet. I’ll respond both here and there. I misread. I’m sorry. I was wrong. I’m so used to people calling grieving families morons and gloating about the new levels of suffering they’re getting that I read what I expected to see instead of what was actually there.

That said, since you blocked me, how did you read this to reply?