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    “You will see mass flight delays. You’ll see mass cancelations, and you may see us close certain parts of the airspace, because we just cannot manage it because we don’t have the air traffic controllers.”

    Maybe y’all shouldn’t have let DOGE chainsaw the FAA, then.

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      Not to take any rightful criticism off of DOGE, but ATCs just have never properly recovered from Reagan getting pissy, and are still just not properly equipped.

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      What does this even mean? How do you “close certain parts of the airspace”?

      Do you invoke NORAD to prevent airplanes from flying into certain portions of US air space? Do you NOTAM certain airspace as class G? Do you maintain the class so VFR can’t fly through and have IFR avoid it? Do you put a TFR across the airspace?

      Come on, dude. Be specific. FAA is DOT. You have the means to find someone who knows the correct words.

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        Because it’s a threat, not a safety measure

        This is yet another loud chest beating to signal Republican incompetence

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    Just keep reminding anybody that blames the Democrats that it’s the Republicans who are in charge right now. No need to argue or go down any rabbit holes with them; just a gentle friendly reminder and move on.

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        To be humiliated, one has to have a sense of being wrong. These people have a severely underdeveloped sense of right and wrong, and thus cannot be humiliated. If anything, you will just anger them and they will dig their heels in deeper. It is better for them to gently be reminded of the truth and let them naturally figure it out themselves (if they ever figure it out; which, admittedly, is a long shot).

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          I’m watching Mikey Johnson lying right through his teeth about the shutdown. It’s probably been a near-daily morning ritual for him.

          Idiots that voted for Taco and moronic bothsiderists will probably eat up these lies or stupidly blame bOtHsIdEs. I hope it’s more, but I’d be surprised if very many figure it out.

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    This might actually affect some republican politicians. They must REALLY want health insurance premiums to go up.

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    It sucks for all the normal folks impacted by this, but being unable to travel for Thanksgiving might actually wake up enough people to the plight they voted for.

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      You know that all republicans (including redneck in trailer parks) are watching faux news 24h/24 where they talk about the horrible democrat shutdown, so they will remember to vote republican again.

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        I laughed in a co workers face when he told me it was “democrats fault that the government is shutdown” these people are so fucking deluded they don’t even bother looking at anything outside their bubble. He then told me that the Democrats are trying to fund “transgender sex change operations in argentina”. They are literally flipping reality on its head they do not care for the truth only what media pundits feed to them.

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        There’s always a few that aren’t, people who can be pried off of the leftward flank.

        If you think there aren’t then you might as well start advocating for the dissolution of the United States, because the experiment is over and it’s a failure.

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        Yep. They are getting their news from the “news” networks that cannot even get the fucking name of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY right.

        I don’t hold out much hope for them to wake up, since these are also the people that are terrified of all things “woke”.

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      I fled a republican controlled hell hole because I’m queer. Even if flying was in a normal situation I wouldn’t be going back there anytime soon.

      I’m “lucky” in that I haven’t really been close to my family for a verity of reasons, but I have friends who are and it does suck for them.

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    This might be a stupid question but I’m not from the US so bear with me.

    If your “government” keeps not doing its job due to choosing to shutdown, how long until you decide this government isn’t doing its sole task of governing and get rid of it and form another?

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      We elect our politicians on a set schedule, and keep our Executive and Legislative branches separate. So, the next opportunity to “form a new government” is next November, when we re-elect the entire House and 1/3 of the Senate.

      And keep in mind what this shutdown actually is. It is a failure to pass a law that appropriates money to government agencies. Not all government spending is subject to appropriations – in particular, Congress is still getting paid, because their salaries are not subject to yearly government appropriations.

      Why can’t these agencies just continue to spend money? Because Congress made it illegal to exceed appropriations. This shutdown is not a bug, it’s how our politicians have set things up, on purpose.

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        It is a failure to pass a law that appropriates money to government agencies. Not all government spending is subject to appropriations – in particular, Congress is still getting paid, because their salaries are not subject to yearly government appropriations.

        Yeah, it’s worth noting that the government shutdown is not budget related. The budget has already been passed. We know how much is going to be spent, and how it will be spent… This shutdown is because the appropriation was run separately, meaning the budget has passed but the various accounts for the budget have no money in them yet. The money already exists. It could be spent. But it’s not in the correct accounts, so the various agencies can’t access it. Thus, those agencies are shut down.

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    These assholes keep trying to blame this on Democrats. I see Mikey Johnson standing there and brazenly lying about SNAP and healthcare, FFS.

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    Map of affected areas:

    (Good airspace is Red, bad airspace is Blue)

    2024 electoral map

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      Unless the left can find some way of reaching them, right-wing media will convince Trump’s followers that “radical extremist Democrats” are causing all this trouble in the USA and only more fascism can fix it.