• TheHiddenCatboy@lemmy.world
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    Open message to Vance:

    When you say kid, I think 4 to 10 years old. A tween is 11 or 12 years old. A teen is 13 to 18. Technically, a 19 year old is also a teenager, but they’re also a young adult. Nobody older than that gets the ‘kid’ pass from me.

    These people were in their 20s and 30s. They are grown-ass adults who should have responsibilities of grown-ass adults. If you say ‘I love Hitler,’ at any age, you get another title from me. “Shithead.” And that transcends age.

    Now fuck off, couch fucker.

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    BTW, it’s weird how peacefully protesting fascism is being called “terrorism” by these assholes. And they plan on trying to defund anyone and any group that opposes the Confederates, no matter how lawful the groups are.

    Meanwhile, they downplay stuff like this.

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    [T]he ages of eight of the 11 participants in the chat: They appear to range from 24 to 35. Ages for three other participants—Bobby Walker, Michael Bartels, and Rachel Hope—were not publicly available.

    The oldest appears to be Joe Maligno, who public records suggest is 35. In the chat, he spoke about gas chambers and used a racial slur toward Chinese people.

    Annie Kaykaty, New York’s national committee member who, in response to Maligno’s comment about gas chambers, said, “I’m ready to watch people burn now,” is 28. Alex Dwyer, chair of the Kansas Young Republicans, who wrote a series of numbers used by white supremacists and wrote, “Sex is gay,” is 29; Peter Giunta, former chair of the New York State Young Republicans, who referred to Black people as “watermelon people” and “monkeys” and said, at another point, “I love Hitler,” is 31.

    Chat member and supposed “kid” Samuel Douglass is a 27-year-old state senator

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    Some of these “kids” are older than Charlie Kirk. They were literally all in the same age range and demographic. This is the modern Republican party when you don’t include the old people.

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        “Boys will be boys” was always about getting into foolish hijinks. It has been co-opted by shitheads to excuse abhorrent behavior. And every time it happens there needs to be significant pushback from from folks to take it back from the bastards.

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          sadly it’s hard to take back a term.

          shitheads missuse the term

          normal people then avoid such term

          now it’s a bad term

          any attempt at reclaiming it will be suspicious as if someone just wants an excuse to use that word.

          it’s mostly a slut thing.

          but with slurs it’s “easier” to reclaim, as the community affected by it, can choose to use it.

          in this case it’s different.

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        I think it was more of a euphemism for stupidity than a dog whistle for mysogyny.

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          it’s often used to excuse male children or teens (or young men) of misogynistic acts.

          although originally meant for general youth stupidity.

          it’s a good dogwhistle because it comes with plausible deniability.

          it depends on the context.

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    How would it have been better if they were kids? It’d be worse: displaying the kind of bullshit being handed down to the next generation.

    They’re inept, stupid, racist adults. Pray they don’t teach kids to be like themselves (though I’m sure they will).

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      I have to disagree. It is definitely worse that these are adults, and they are the upcoming leaders of the GOP.

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      Kids at least might not be aware how dumb they are. Too many of them just say stuff like that to be edgy.

      They aren’t aware of the implications that if they want to gas people, other people might want to gas them.

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    One problem with this defense? The people in the group chat aren’t “kids.” By scanning public records and media reports, Mother Jones determined the ages of eight of the 11 participants in the chat: They appear to range from 24 to 35. Ages for three other participants—Bobby Walker, Michael Bartels, and Rachel Hope—were not publicly available. Bartels declined to comment to Politico, and the outlet could not reach Hope for comment. Walker told Politico parts of the chat “may have been altered, taken out of context, or otherwise manipulated,” adding, “The language is wrong and hurtful, and I sincerely apologize.”

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      “You don’t get it, when I was dropping n-bombs, the context was crucial! It was an ironic hard-r!”

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    This is just what leaked. The youngish adults staffing all these senators’ and representatives’ offices are barely any older, and are probably saying the same shit.

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    Let’s say for the benefit of the doubt this was a chat composed entirely of children. Where did these “children” learn all that talk? As young republicans maybe from older republicans or their Republican parents. Them being actual kids would make it worse