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How about “No Dictators”?
A king is a dictator, they have unlimited power. Plus there’s the context of the US breaking off from the UK because they didn’t want a king anymore. You could use “dictator” instead as the modern term but then you lose out on the historical connection pointing out the irony.
A king is a pretty term that legitimizes the person in charge, which is what Trump wants. You call them what they are: fascist dictators.
It seems you’re overlooking how useful having a catchy, easy to say slogan is. Somehow. Despite, I assume, having witnessed the last decade of politics…
You don’t build a movement on well, ackshually…
It’s a terrible name, but I think “no rulers” would be better.
The problem with these people is that they’re okay with being ruled by the Clintons but not the Trumps.
They’re too stupid to realize that both families only care about enriching themselves and their loyalists.
Shit’s never going to change because we keep scheduling protests instead of protesting every day in every way possible. At home, at work; protest everywhere.
This is necessary to get people started out.
Gets them familiar with how protesting needs to be done.
So when shit inevitably gets worse, they and their friends who stayed home last time will be out again and likely for longer too.
You want to move millions of people to fight for freedom? Gotta get them used to the motions first.
This coinciding with the government shutdown could increase turnout and really fuck with city operations.
I recall the first trump term’e shutdown ending when protests shut down leguarda airport.
Republicans have begun to frame the protests as “hate America rallies,”
I’m probably preaching to the choir here, but exercising your right to protest is one of most patriotic things you can possibly do.
Share that message with anyone you know who needs to hear it.
I hate MAGA’s America, and will fight to kill it.
Yeah, I mean they literally founded their country via a protest which resulted in tea getting chucked into Boston harbor.
And they were also in costume!
I can’t believe 1700s antifa destroyed private property
Anteafa
What’s this a play on?
an-ti-fa » an-tea-fa
Because of the chucking of tea into the harbor.
Some people are reclaiming the flag at protests
It’s needed, to show in photos where the protests are happening. Don’t let them handwave the photos away as some third-world country.
They’re doing the opposite, using riots in third works countries to try to convince their idiots that shit is happening here. There’s a non-zero chance that Dementia Donald actually believes those pictures they show on Fox are real and that’s why he’s doing this
We sit around and bitch about the corporations caving to the alt-Reich, about Congress people just giving in to Trump, about ICE not having a conscience to do the things they do.
Yet as long as we only sit and bitch, as long as we’re not fighting back in some way, we are also complicit in what our country’s government does.
If you honk your horn to warn people ICE is around, you are protecting them. If you protest the regime, others will see that there’s are others standing up and this is not inevitable. If you call your Congress people, you are telling them what the will of the people is, and that people are watching their actions. You don’t have to do everything, but you should be doing something.
How can you expect corporations to care or Congress people to have a spine, if you won’t even pick up a phone? Courage, and consciences, are contagious.
If you call your Congress people
No. This does nothing. Your representatives only care about the interests of their donors.
You want them to listen? You’d better open your wallet.
There was an interview about a year and a half ago, with some Congress person who was asked why they made so many right-leaning votes. They said that, out of every 5 phone calls they received on an issue, 4 of them supported the right and only 1 can would support the left (because the right wing is really good at stirring up their base). While money does talk, so do the people - at least for now.
Lmao. next time win the election What the protest gonna achieve anyway We r gonna have somme journos that s gonna interview ppl there and everyone will make fun of them. Good shit
Can you at least educate yourself on the psychology and sociology behind protests? Do you realize social change happens not only with the exchange of ideas but with people seeing movements happening? Or what, would you rather they all comment angrily online into the void, ultimately get censored, and get the boot down their throat having tried nothing?
And before you even try it, violence does not work. That only gives the government an excuse to use force, and they’re salivating just thinking bout it.
It seem violence was ultimately stronger than the exchange of idea if we consider what happen to kirk. But I hear you and I would agree if only it was a mouvement that had a majority supporter. To me it s more adjacent to a social event than a political contestation. Also the communication is all over the place, no king ? Like yeah nothing said king that winning an election by a landslide. On the article they said the event will also happen in Canada and europe ? Like who give a fuck ? And that it s an horror he cut humanitarian aid ? Just take a second job and go work to finance that rather than protest and expect a whole ass country to finance mesure that doesn’t benefit his citizen
You trust that the system of governance is immune to corruption and law breaking, that it’s infallible. It very much is, and “oh we lost this time but we’ll beat facism at the next vote” is exactly how they keep getting away with shit. Elections are treated as a blank slate, fresh start, when they are not, even if there is another election and we win we’ll have to fight to restore the rule of law and the systems to a state before all of this.
No. But tbh and transparent while trump should be criticized for a lot of stuff that s not what your side in focus on. Just to be sure and don’t pretend I know what you stand for can u light me up on why this protest take place
I agree these protests aren’t going to accomplish anything and just serve to make people feel like they’re doing something.
If we want our culture to change, we need to be the ones to change it.
All of these idiots are proud to give as much power as possible to as few people as possible.
Would be more useful to protest against policy rather than an elected personality. Interview of the protester going to be fun
Perhaps you should learn how to spell before you try to be clever with your bullshit.
Yeah cause the way of being right is trough ad hominem attack. Not my first language and no respect for it. Not sorry
Wow, what a fucking moron. Why are you defending people who would want you to die for not speaking English? Go back to your hole dumbass.
Want me to die ? Really ? Wasn’t aware trump voter wanted the whole non English world to die. Just tought they didn’t want illegal alien in their country which is understandable
Yes lol they definitely do.
Na I’m not Antifa affiliated seem safe for me
No one is affiliated with antifa. It’s not an organization. It’s an idea. Anti-Fascism.
What is your native language? Where are you posting from?
He’s an idiot but you really are suspect with that username.
Yeah, I’ve been told that on here before. I was born in 1988 and it’s been part of my online persona since I was a young teen. I didn’t know about the HH implication until I started hanging out in more leftist circles on reddit and eventually here
Fair enough. Thanks for explaining.
Does it change anything to my argument ? Mr 88 in the pseudo lmao
Not necessarily, but it would be ironic if you were a non-native speaking English person living in the US. That would likely indicate that you or your parents are exactly the type of people that Trump and his friends are trying to vilify and make life more difficult for.
Yeah it would be if I was an immigrant incapable of speaking English
Do you truly believe that matters to this regime? That it would matter to ICE officers charged with capturing you?
It’s certainly a comfortable thought to consider yourself “the exception,” but it’s dangerously naive. Racists hardly care if you speak English. Complaining about immigrants not speaking English is an easy target to hit, especially since the people being complained about can’t argue back. That doesn’t mean they like foreigners who speak English. If they wanted to complain about you, they’d just pick some other thing that makes you “different.”
You’re still a foreigner, and there are enough fascists out there who don’t care what else you are.
Big mouth username checks out
What an incredible argument If you read this and not the name of an animal a i suggest you should see a doctor
I would but I can’t afford my insurance so seeing a doctor would put me in so much debt that alone would surely kill me 😊
When you made your username, were you trying to spell “mammoth”?
Big ma, moth.
Next time don’t try to bring a dick tater into the land of the free
STILL no kings? Is there at least an ETA?
If only the conditions making these protests necessary could have been prevented…
Oh wait, you helped them happen. Enjoy the fake internet points. Can’t wait to see your next agenda.
Edit: Apparently it’s been forgotten that Ozma plastered several communities with articles trashing both Biden and Harris running up to the election.
Edit edit to also remind that while trashing Dem candidates, we got crickets from them about Donnie and friends. It was an obvious agenda that several people recognized at the time. They did it before and they will do it again. Wait for election year.
I think you’re getting down voted because people don’t know from your original comment that you were referring to OP.
But yeah. Fuck these fake leftists who rallied hard against the idea of voting for Harris over Trump, then turn around crying and shivering that their virtue signal boycott surrendered the country to fascism.
Yes ozma alone is somehow responsible, on a niche online forum, instead of the people poorly planning a campaign.
It’s irrelevant to what OP posted, but you are correct. I remember specifically calling them out over the endless slanted posting against Dems during the election. Never a word against Trump
He literally has dozens of posts that are anti-Trump right now, and he’s never once said Trump has done anything good.
I didn’t forget
Good. Thank you.
Oh wait, you helped them happen.
I don’t think Ozma had much role in the decades-long neoliberal exploitation of the working class, the entrenchment of inoffensive focus group politics in the DNC, the persistent rightward shift of the Democratic political establishment or Biden and co. gloating about how much they were helping Israel’s genocide.
Apparently it’s been forgotten that Ozma plastered several communities with articles trashing both Biden and Harris running up to the election.
Imagine posting facts that don’t paint ineffectual proto-fascists as the next best thing since sliced bread. Truly a crime against humanity.
Lol. It was a complete stream of articles aimed at discouraging voting based on a single issue while never posting anything showing that the other side was going to be worse on the same issue, let alone disastrous for so many other reasons.
Don’t give me the bullshit about posting facts. I never said a thing about lies. It was selective posting to promote an agenda of not voting.
If that agenda influenced even on person not to vote, they were part of the problem. Voting is about choosing the best fit candidate, not the perfect candidate. Working to change the horrible status quo should be done outside of an election in which not voting is helping to usher fascism into the highest offices in this country.
Seeing as you’re calling Biden and Harris neo fascist this entire text is lost on you. Guessing you didn’t vote or aren’t a US citizen, and obviously don’t understand what this country lost by electing dipshit don into the presidency. Both sides are not the same no matter how delusionally you believe they are.
It was a complete stream of articles aimed at discouraging voting based on a single issue while never posting anything showing that the other side was going to be worse on the same issue, let alone disastrous for so many other reasons.
Oh my god, facts! More seriously, nobody this side of Lemmy needs to learn how bad the Republicans are, and that sort of information is everywhere anyway. Nobody needs to be told that Trump is super duper bad, but many need to understand that Democrats won’t save them.
It was selective posting to promote an agenda of not voting.
Or maybe Democrats kept fucking up their campaign in newsworthy ways. If criticism of your camp makes someone the enemy, you should do some serious introspection. Yes, even if your camp is the self-proclaimed defenders of democracy; if you can’t hold your leaders accountable democracy is already dead.
Working to change the horrible status quo should be done outside of an election in which not voting is helping to usher fascism into the highest offices in this country.
That’s been the pitch for longer than I’ve been alive, and guess what? It never happens, because giving up your leverage willingly is a terrible negotiating tactic. Also, given that in America there’s an election every two years, what? Are people just supposed to keep their mouths shut and toe the party line a full 50% of their lives? And specifically the 50% in which they have the most leverage? Starting to smell of free speech zones in here. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Seeing as you’re calling Biden and Harris neo fascist this entire text is lost on you.
Huh? Don’t put words in my mouth; I called them proto-fascist. If they were as bad as the Republicans I would’ve called them fascist.
obviously don’t understand what this country lost by electing dipshit don into the presidency.
I do, but I also understand that kicking the can down the road was going to result in zero improvement whatsoever. You think there wouldn’t have been fascists running with significant support in 2026 and 2028? Fascism never deescalates on its own; the conditions leading to its emergence need to be addressed and neither the Democrats nor Americans as a whole have shown much willingness to do so. Liberal fuck ups are what fuels fascism; if you’re not going to take on the liberals when you can you’ll only get more fascism, not less. Electing Biden certainly did fuckall to stop Trump.
Seeing as you’re calling Biden and Harris neo fascist this entire text is lost on you. Guessing you didn’t vote or aren’t a US citizen, and obviously don’t understand what this country lost by electing dipshit don into the presidency. Both sides are not the same no matter how delusionally you believe they are.
Holy shit It’s honestly amazing how dumbass Americans like you see politicians openly supporting and facilitated the biggest genocide of the 21st century and still refuse to admit they’re fascist because the orange guy is worse.
You guys do not give a shit about the plight of the Third World, which would be okay somewhat if your country wasn’t the biggest terrorist organisation in the world. Designating a huge ass entire genocide as a single issue is a fascist dog whistle in and of itself.
The best thing people like you can do right now is shit on people who called actual fascists out for being fascists instead of actually inspecting where you went wrong. Only now Western Liberals are coming around to calling it what the rest of the world has been calling it for the past two years - a genocide.
With Trump - you guys are only getting a fraction of the pain and suffering that America caused to other countries.
Typical tankie rhetoric…
An opinion that is considered slightly radical but still milquetoast - is viewed as “tankiysm” by Americans.
I didnt even go into the fact that you guys literally funded a genocide in my own country. I feel no hesitation in hating your govrnment no matter who is in charge.
You got voting all wrong. Votes put money in people’s pockets. You gotta withhold the money to make them work for you, or the cycle just continues. If it wasn’t Trump this time, he would have run the next time, or some other loser to take his place. Gaza would still be rubble. People still being deported. Abortions still not legal federally. The two party system does not work and needs a reset. Whether that happened last election or a future election, it would lead to a bad time. Life is cyclical.
Okay what people saying this shit never address is where we are now. Exactly how are we better off now? Trump is 1000 times worse than any Democrat and every single day we see that proven further from a shadow of doubt.
Trump is 1000 times worse than any Democrat and every single day
Now that Trump has started to hurt a lot of middle class white people suddenly the pain is a problem. All the pain on minority communities before Trump was fine eh?
Gotta love bad faith liars simping for Putin/trump.
So have you always pretended to care about gazans or did it start during the 2024 election cycle? Guessing the latter, you moral little angel you.
Guessing the latter, you moral little angel you.
What is your limit that in the past for someone to care that it counts?
How is my reply bad faith?
Your comment minimises all the brutalisation done against minorities, since the biggest difference with Trump is he is doing all that as before, but also targetting white people who were otherwise shielded from the bluntest parts of the US.
If that difference is 1000 times worse then how are you not valuing the comfort of white people above all?
Where we are now is life. Things go up and down. You can’t just keep doing the same thing expecting it to get better when the system doesn’t work that way. Sometimes in life you go through hard times so that the future is better.
You can’t just keep doing the same thing expecting it to get better
I couldn’t have made a better argument against voting against democrats.
Sometimes in life you go through hard times so that the future is better.
Cool, accelerationist.
When you’ve lived more years you’ll understand
It’s useless talking to Americans. They’re all the same. American Liberals are just a more cunning version of Conservatives.
If they are so cunning, why can’t they win a fucking election?
Cunning at pretending they’re different.
Because there is no platform. Democrats don’t want to give in to the populist social democratic policies because that’ll anger the billionaires. The American masses vote Trump because they see they have barely differeny policies thus they vote the ones who’ll “keep out the gays” more.
I’m sure you have a lot of friends with that bullshit outlook.
Where I live, people already know this.
It’s only bullshit to you because America can’t look past itself.
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Yay, censorship!
I love having you morons dictate what I get to see.
(I just said “yawn”).
Yeah, these mods and their decisions are worthless.
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The last one did nothing. This one will do nothing. If Trump is there, be sure to block his chopper.
General strike next
No one is going to strike. Striking means you stop until you get what you want, and the billionaires can hold out for much longer than most of us
They can hold but can they hide
You know what accomplishes nothing? Keyboard pessimists like you.
To be fair, I think the keyboard optimists don’t accomplish much either. Actions always speak louder than (typed) words.
That’s a nice excuse you have for being wrong twice.
Whataboutism is also pointless.
Much easier to be lazy and let others do the work for you.
Yawn. What work are you doing? “Organizing?” lol
What other ideas do you suggest that people should go for then?
What are you doing? 🥱
