The polling numbers after the election were horrifying. GenZ are like the Hitler Youth of today. Not just voting Trump because their parents were Republicans and influenced their political outlook, but enthusiastically embracing Trump because of memes and TikTok, not actually considering the consequences carefully.

It’s shameful, because even though most GenZ kids were not old enough to vote, they were almost old enough to vote back in 2016 when Trump took office the first time. It’s not like they are looking back at the early years of politics from their childhood fondly, they were definitely old enough to be able to see how destructive he was.

Major win for Trump the Traitor, devastating loss for the bottom 2/3rds of income earners.

If that were possible, I’ll like to go back a year and get a do-over on Butler, PA.

I feel so bad for this man, because even if he’s acquitted of all the charges, the insane right wingers will never let him have peace. They’ll hound him and his family forever.

Heck, even if he is guilty and the jury determines as such, it’s still not an excuse to torture him to death either.

So nearly 20% of people living in the United states are illegal aliens? Is that what she’s claiming?

This is what happens when the president goes on TV and says “millions and millions of people are pouring into the country every day” and nobody pushes back on that. They start to think it’s actually true and not just massive hyperbole from a known serial liar.

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Well, consider me corrected. I remember that race being much closer than it was. I guess I forgot that he came off of the G.W. Bush presidency so it makes sense that there was a huge shift towards the left.

I never said that, but have fun arguing with the strawman you worked so hard to build up.

So I guess your excuse if AOC or whatever female candidate the DNC happen to trot out next loses to the next guy, be that JD Vance, some other MAGA nutjob, or even Trump taking a shot at a third term, is that she isn’t charismatic or authentic, is that right?

No, no, it couldn’t possibly be because America has a misogyny problem. I mean, never mind the fact that black men earned the right to vote before any woman did, that’s not relevant at all. History never repeats itself. I’m sure those basement dwelling neckbeards and macho-man wanna-bes will TOTALLY sign on to canvas for AOC. I’m sure her being a woman will not be a factor at all, people will be so enamored with her great policy that they will forget about it entirely!

How many black candidates lost to white candidates in a post-primary presidential race?

That’s right, zero.

How many female candidates have lost to male candidates in a post-primary presidential race?

Two, or in other words, all of them.

You can make an argument to say that there was racist gatekeeping back when Obama was running, and that was absolutely true, but we never actually had a situation where a political party fronted a black man and lost. We actually do have data that shows that America rejected a female presidential candidate twice. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that America simply isn’t socially developed enough to be capable of looking past the misogyny and we should take that into consideration if our goal is to win.

This is the realistic take. Racism is bad enough in this country that we just barely squeaked Obama into office as a half-black man. Misogyny is way more widespread. Spend about 5 minutes in an online game chat room and you’ll see what I mean. Not to mention the manosphere/blackpilling are actually growing movements rather than shrinking.

I think AOC is great and that she would make a fine administrator, but let’s keep her in congress for now where she can still do a lot of good for the progressive cause. There’s no need to put someone who the right has spent years building up as the antichrist boogeyman as the frontrunner when we already have a poor track record of prominent female politicians losing the presidential race to the most embarrassingly unqualified candidate in American history.

This is how the president responds to the democratic process…

I am so glad this guy is scaring the everloving fuck out of the right and the DINOs. I want a legion of folk just like him to run for office in every state and every office so we can sweep away the remnants of the old guard.

So true. What we are experiencing now is the “new normal”, and electing Joe Biden proved that we can’t restore sanity just by voting a democrat in office. Every time we get a conservative from now on, we should expect more of this wacky Trumpian bullshit, even if Trump isn’t at the helm.

There are, as you said, only two way of actually fixing the problem. All-out civil war, which nobody really wants and may not culminate in actually winning, or untethering ourselves from the minority party currently running the failed state by seceding, preferably peacefully. That presents it’s own unique challenges and problems, but it’s by far a better solution than continuing to course correct the sinking ship like we are now. We will only drown with the captain and his crew of morons who intend to go down with the ship.

US: “NATO members need to up their defense spending!”

NATO: “Okay, we’ll do it.”

US: “Actually, We’re leaving NATO.” 🤡

Change the constitution then. It’s crystal clear. We don’t live in a vibe democracy. You don’t jut get to pick and choose what laws you get to follow if you want to be a nation of laws at all.

The thing about ending birthright citizenship is that it would just create a stateless individual. Where would they even deport children of undocumented immigrants to? Are they going to make an El Salvadorian gulag for them too?

The former SCOTUS ruling on the 14th amendment was really clear - if you are born here, you are a citizen regardless of your parent’s legal immigration status. I don’t understand why the SCOTUS is even bothering to hear this case when even a constitutional literalist would have difficulty trying to weasel-word their way into a ruling that supports the Republican position on this one.

I can thing of few things more cruel than a state that looks at a literal child who was born here, lived here all their lives, speaks the language, attends school, has friends and family and a support structure and would otherwise be indistinguishable from any other American child born to American-born parents, and deport them to a country they’ve never set foot in for no real discernible reason other than they are anti-immigrant racists.

Even if the no compromise socialists do end up compromising, it will still be a better result than what we have been getting from democrats for decades because at least hard left socialists would start from a strong position, rather than a position most reasonable people might find agreeable only to get yanked to the right by the fucking fascists.

Thanks. My guy ain’t on there, luckily. But geez, there’s a shocking number of CA representatives who voted Aye.

I hate this political party so much. Not as much as the Republican party, but enough to make me want to quit following politics because it seems like nothing will ever meaningfully change.

Is there a list of names? Because if any of my reps show up on this list, I will never vote for them again.

I don’t want these fucking dinosaurs running the goddamn party anymore. I want some progressives with teeth who have the backbone to fight the fascists head on. I don’t care how petty or how low they have to get, I want to see them at least try.

Great, then he should have no problem voting to strip himself and his fellow congressmen of their 100% government funded healthcare.

If the labor that is necessary for feeding people can’t exist without undocumented workers, then perhaps the system itself is fundamentally broken if there is no easy path to citizenship.

You cannot have it both ways, Trump. Either it’s easy to come here and get papered up and nobody gets deported (and he loses his ultimate scapegoat), or it’s just as hard as it is now and we deport everyone working the fields and starve.