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If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP

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Giving out an ultimatum to blow up civilian infrastructure is a war crime right

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    Is trump threatening all of this because he brutally raped those girls? You call that presidential?

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    As a US citizen I wonder if this is how 1930s Germans felt?

    Well except a large portion of us feel the orange shit gibbon is a moron, surrounded by sycophantic morons and kakistocrats.

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      I wonder how it feels to be a holocaust survivour in the Untied States right now. I don’t know how many holocaust survivours are left, they’re all really old by now. Just imagine surviving the concentration camps and moving to the Untied States where things are peaceful by comparison. And then, at the end of your life, right before you die, you watch the Untied States fall to a new generation of nazis, watch the same horrible patterns repeating all over again

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      The idea that Hitler was some sort of genius supervillain is a myth mostly propagated by movies and video games. It’s a shame, because I think this notion made it more difficult for many people to understand what trump was as he was clawing at power.

      In reality, Hitler was an incompetent moron, and the similarities with trump are uncanny.

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      And a large portion of Germans also felt that hitler was a moron, surrounded by sycophantic morons and kakistocrats.

      Actualt as the nazi party never won the majority of seats the us is actually more complainant to the current regime.

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    Seems to be 2 Trump options that tie into what was reported as extortion of GCC for $5T for war, 2.5T for peace. It doesn’t so much have to be a bribe as the outcome of each option.

    1. US withdraws, leaving Gulf security to rest of world. = loss of past US support for their regimes. CIA/Mossad is very good at making colour revolutions in countries that are not loving of the USA. ie. all recognized democracies.

    2. War crimes against Iranian civilians. IRGC destroys GCC water infrastructure, and keeps them blockaded of food and money including more damage to energy exporting capacity. Oil to $300+

    The entirety of the US colonial world rulerships need a longer debate on whether US/Israel alliance is worth preserving over the US resorting to war crimes to avoid quickly losing the war, but risking far more permanent global destruction.

    World fixing Gulf security without US is easy, and better than any longer war. EU shouldn’t care if it pays for oil in CNY. GCC still siding against Iran after the war started makes their destruction deserved. Ending US empire is their path to not face colour revolutions, and directly fighting Israel in response to colour revolution agitation is their path to get population on their side.

    Should be a natural alliance with countries that offer useful trade, instead of political capture by the wealthiest. This is a moment for world to restrain/distance itself from US power, and will expose the corruption of colonial system if not. The same applies to Israel’s master relationship to US, where Americans may not understand the benefit of supporting genocidal evil, that will be directed towards them, eventually.

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        I’ve spent 10 minutes trying to come up with a punchline for this and nothing works.

        I mean, if you spend enough time with any of them you’ll probably see something explode…

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        GCC are Gulf Cooperation Council states. Countries on the east side of Persian Gulf. CNY is Chinese Yuan currency.

  • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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    Giving out an ultimatum to blow up civilian infrastructure is a war crime right

    Sadly, the world isn’t going to so anything about it. The World has more or less greenlit Israel’s genocide. If anything the world is going to run and support the US in reopening the Strait to allow the flow of oil.

    The oil must flow.

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      brainrot through social media / smartphones, coupled with propaganda.

      We have the brainrot already in Europe - if our propaganda were as strong, we’d be just as bad, sadly.

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        We spent decades destroying our education system and you didn’t even mention it, do our efforts mean nothing to you?

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        Not true, the US is in the end game stage of capitalism and is run like one big corporation. Only numbers matters. Europe never was like this

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          While I don’t agree, your point and my observation do not contradict each other.

          As much as I despise what’s normal in Magastan, telling ourselves we are in any way more smart or ethical in Europe is precisely how we run our bus off the same cliff.

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            I meant that in today’s Europe, particularly Western Europe, there isn’t the same cultural attachment to exceptionalism. There’s also no existential drive to dominate like there is in the US. There’s more balance, collaboration, and people value collective progress not just individual “supremacy”. We’re all stupid

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              I meant that in today’s Europe, particularly Western Europe, there isn’t the same cultural attachment to exceptionalism

              True. But again - with enough propaganda, it could be. And our shitheads in basically all of the European governments are hard at work to re-establish totalitarian regimes.

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    Fucking USA wars. Would he make such a big war, and threaten them with nuclear obliteration, if they weren’t on the other side of the globe? No. Cowards.

    And yes, many Iranian power plants are nuclear. Nice of you to not mention that, asshole potus.

    Of course the fallout would still be bad - not only for US “allies” in Europe but also in the US. But realizing that would require some mental effort so it doesn’t count.

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    Omg. I read that at first as “Tran’s power plant”. If there was such a thing — he’d attack it.

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    I’m not sure if he’s really thought this one through.

    Doesn’t look like he’s left himself a lot of wiggle room to back down.

    I don’t think Iran is going to comply.

    edit: I kinda wonder why Iran isn’t pushing a lot harder to manipulate public opinion. Fake photos of petrol prices. Rumours of fuel shortages. Rumours about the Trump family profiting somehow. Rumours that Bibi was going to release unredacted Epstein Kompromat. Plans to draft people for war in Iran. Even the dems could be doing this really.

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      It does not need to be fake photos. The financial cost is real, a trump is blatant about his family corruption.

      Even if there was a media campaign the USA is a controlled media, so it wouldn’t be shown, if it did people would either forgive it because USA is always a winner attitude or they would disassociate blame AI etc.

      You had citizens being shot and that was not enough to provoke a turn around.

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      I kinda wonder why Iran isn’t pushing a lot harder to manipulate public opinion.

      They do. I have seen public statements by Iranian officials, and even memes (mostly AI), here on lemmy.

      But they’re mostly in Parsi and Arabic, since that’s the audience they care about. Iran is trying to end the US threat against them, which probably means removing US bases in the Middle East and getting the Gulf powers on their side. So they don’t talk about rising fuel prices, they talk about Palestine, the massacre of the schoolgirls, and freedom in general.