Yeah its a good thing that never in history have governments, sometimes of the largest economies and some the most capable of projecting force, its a good thing that never in history have governments collapsed, having been replaced whole cloth.
Its a good thing thats never happened, otherwise your sarcasm could be mistaken for a deep, toxic, counter productive cynicism.
China does it ever couple hundred years, the Roman Empire by its end in the 1400s had been effectively reorganized dozens of times and could hardly be considered the same state, Britain and France more or less collapsed to their core territories by the 60s, the Spanish and Portuguese Empires imploded economically before being picked apart by the Dutch and newly independent colonies. I could go on but those are the big ones where the empires in question had notable territory loss or effectively reorganized in totality, there’s a couple smaller examples like with Sweden becoming Insular or how Islam transitioned from an imperial institution in a lot of ways into a religious one, but those examples rarely are as impressive or went on for centuries without any real turning points.
Oh I don’t know. Maybe just pick any of them. Perhaps most recently, that one weird event which resulted in the formation of the nationstates Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan.
Bro it’s every government that ever existed before the current ones. He’s not referring to specific historical events. He’s referring to the entire history of humanity. It’s like asking “which people” when someone says “people have died.”
I think there is just an expectation of a certain level of political and historical literacy when you are having a conversation in a news or politics forum.
You don’t hop into a league football match and then ask the other players on the bench what the rules are. Maybe read the wikipedia first, or just sit in the stand till you work the basics out.
Except this isn’t a football match. It’s real life, and the more people we have who are armed with knowledge to make wise decisions, the stronger our position. A spectator’s knowledge of football won’t influence the outcome of the game. You can’t exactly say the same about this.
Its just, its such an obtuse take. People are just asking you to put out a mediocre amount of effort to educate yourself, and your argument is basically “No, its the comments sections job to teach me political science”.
Yeah its a good thing that never in history have governments, sometimes of the largest economies and some the most capable of projecting force, its a good thing that never in history have governments collapsed, having been replaced whole cloth.
Its a good thing thats never happened, otherwise your sarcasm could be mistaken for a deep, toxic, counter productive cynicism.
I’m curious, which historical events are you referring to?
China does it ever couple hundred years, the Roman Empire by its end in the 1400s had been effectively reorganized dozens of times and could hardly be considered the same state, Britain and France more or less collapsed to their core territories by the 60s, the Spanish and Portuguese Empires imploded economically before being picked apart by the Dutch and newly independent colonies. I could go on but those are the big ones where the empires in question had notable territory loss or effectively reorganized in totality, there’s a couple smaller examples like with Sweden becoming Insular or how Islam transitioned from an imperial institution in a lot of ways into a religious one, but those examples rarely are as impressive or went on for centuries without any real turning points.
Oh I don’t know. Maybe just pick any of them. Perhaps most recently, that one weird event which resulted in the formation of the nationstates Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan.
So fun that people down vote legitimate questions.
Bro it’s every government that ever existed before the current ones. He’s not referring to specific historical events. He’s referring to the entire history of humanity. It’s like asking “which people” when someone says “people have died.”
I’m assuming that’s people who don’t realize that you’re not unicorn dude
I think there is just an expectation of a certain level of political and historical literacy when you are having a conversation in a news or politics forum.
Seems like a great way to discourage the folks who need that knowledge from requesting it
If you need that knowledge you need to go to elementary school, dont learn it on the fediverse lol.
You don’t hop into a league football match and then ask the other players on the bench what the rules are. Maybe read the wikipedia first, or just sit in the stand till you work the basics out.
Except this isn’t a football match. It’s real life, and the more people we have who are armed with knowledge to make wise decisions, the stronger our position. A spectator’s knowledge of football won’t influence the outcome of the game. You can’t exactly say the same about this.
Its just, its such an obtuse take. People are just asking you to put out a mediocre amount of effort to educate yourself, and your argument is basically “No, its the comments sections job to teach me political science”.
This isn’t about arming or positions, this is about “did you think for a second before you asked that?”