In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

  • marcie (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    24 days ago

    Truly unhinged that they decided to come out on this. Fellas, you are fucking Swiss why throw yourself under the bus for the US election

    • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
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      23 days ago

      Because terrible people literally can’t help themselves. Wait for people to show you who they truly are, they will…

  • Alas Poor Erinaceus@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    7 days ago

    You could look at infomaniak, but I didn’t have the best experience trying out (or even getting started with) their services. Finding a provider that has all of Proton’s apps is going to be tough (or at least it was from me while I was looking to escape from Tuta). Good luck, tho.

    EDIT: Infomaniak is on F-Droid!

    EDIT EDIT: Infomaniak is only available in Europe! Infomaniak is only available with a European phone number, so using a VPN won’t help! 🙁👎

    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
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      24 days ago

      Finding a provider that has all of Proton’s apps is going to be toug

      Nobody should be using any provider as one stop shop… That’s how we got cooked by Google and Apple the first time folks.

      Unbundle, mix and match…

      Yeah it auck Proton did this but if you only got one proton service, it is eaiser to either do nothing or switch it.

  • L@zzerot@startrek.website
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    24 days ago

    Protonmail has been my main email provider for the past 7 years, and unless its CEO decides to sell it to Trump or Musk I honestly don’t see how his stupid private or not so private opinions are worth the hassle of changing my email for the million things I use my main and all the other emails I registered with Protonmail.
    Most rich people have very dubious or outright awful political opinions and unless you’re rich enough to have someone build you an alternative or deconnected enough from society/only exist in programmer circles and are able to live entirely on FOSS software I don’t see why the average user should care about the CEO’s political stance. Maybe that’s my ignorant opinion as a European, but would you stop using Linux if you found out Linus Torvalds secretly loves Windows? Probably not.

  • Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca
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    24 days ago

    Uggghhh I just upped for two years. Fucking asshats are all caving to the orange fuckhead. Probably off to Europe somewhere.

      • Hannes@feddit.org
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        24 days ago

        If this wasn’t enough of a wakeupcall to not put all the eggs in one basket then what is? Companies are literally doing this to lock you into their service so it’s harder to switch since you then have to find X new services instead of just one.

        Better go with one that’d specialized for each service you need…

  • Siathes@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    24 days ago

    Sooo, can we not create and/or finance our own? Please be gentle…but…is there not enough of us paying for proton and other privacy apps to fund a floss or non-profit version? I mean there are tech nerds all over this place, along with law nerds and political nerds…etc…(meant with love btw) that would have an instant user base.

    I pledge here to sub up to $15usd/month for any lemmy person that starts an entity that provides us with what we need with ethics and morality of lemmy common.

  • derbolle@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    i wanted to move my google stuff to Proton this year as a Backup for my self hosted stuff. Shame, seems like I need to put a little more time into managing my self hosted stuff