“Well, they did sign up for it, actually. And this is what I campaigned on,” Trump said of the tariffs during an interview with ABC News that aired Tuesday.

And you can’t really argue with that.

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      Hold up. Wait. So tRUMP isn’t lying for once?

      His lips moved therefore a childlike fabrication should be heard, right!!??!! I think I need to have a good long sit down and think about what he’s done!

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      Exactly, this is not the policies of just one (although completely mental) guy. This is republican politics.

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          Damn you Lia Thompson! Damn you for DOMINATING in the women’s NCAA swimming and diving championships and checks notes …unremarkably tying for 5th place.

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          I agree with him that physical men must not be allowed to compete in women sports against other physical womans. Its completely unfair to woman who have no chance to reach the physical level a man can reach in strength-based sports. And it kills all motivation for a woman to be an athlete when they cant reach that level.

          That doesn’t happen. Men play in men’s sports and women play in women’s sports. If you mean trans people, trans athletes follow some pretty strict guidelines to play in most leagues that don’t give them an unfair advantage (though, to be fair, there may be some physical differences between trans and cis athletes that might affect performance, but studies have shown that these differences do not make for more than a very slight advantage at best (and potentially a large disadvantage at worst!), and I’d argue that most cis athletes would be way better off just doing steroids than spending literal years transitioning to get this fabled advantage that doesn’t exist.)

          But trans women do play in women’s sports and trans men do play in men’s sports. Your argument is that trans women should play in men’s sports, yes? Should trans men play in women’s sports? If you don’t believe they should, then you don’t believe they are women (which is valid, because they are, you know, men). But what is different about trans women? It is entirely feelings based, because the evidence doesn’t show that trans athletes crush their competition. It doesn’t even show that they win more often. Because they don’t! They win just as often as you would expect a cis athlete does.

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            I agree with most of your post. And also, I want to be clear that I support trans people participating in sports.

            The problem with studies is that there is literally no data. This is such a statistically insignificant problem there isn’t enough data to go on. There were like 20 trans athletes in total for one of the larger studies.

            The data we do have shows mixed results. Trans women tend to perform better in sports that require physical strength, such as weightlifting.

            They do not perform better than cis women in cardio events such as running and swimming. Their smaller muscle mass can’t keep up with the larger frame.

            Regardless, I think the value that comes from participating in sports is too important to not let them play.

            A lot of the bans of trans kids in sports seem to be happening at the age where sports are co-ed so the whole thing is fucking stupid. Just let people play sports.

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              So basically you’re saying we should allow trans people to play in whatever sport they want so we can collect more data.

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              So because you don’t like the studies we should take the most hurtful option? Fuck off with your dog whistles and double speak.

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              Sure. We don’t necessarily have concrete evidence one way or the other on advantages due to numbers, but of the trans athletes that currently exist, the dis/advantage is unlikely to matter beyond a couple percentage points. With more trans athletes, we can get more determination into what effects transitioning has on athletic ability, but for the most part, it’s not a real issue.

              The issue is that the average person thinks there are cismasc athletes registering as transfem, which isn’t a thing.

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              That’s trying to make this seem like a small issue, when it’s not. It’s not about sports. The right has been using “men in women’s sports” as an excuse to try to hurt people.

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                No im sure its a big issue. I just have an opinion about it that people may not share, and I think thats fine.

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                  Since nobody has come out with it yet, I will: you are a bigot. Your views are bigoted. You think it is acceptable to dehumanize and discriminate against an already vulnerable minority because a sports competition might be different. You have decided that somebody doesn’t have a right to exist because there might be a tiny change to your favorite hobby. Are you truly this unempathetic?

                  Would you like to know that the whole ‘they’re too strong’ excuse was the exact same thing they said about black men in sports? It is exactly the same playbook, and you are falling for it like a sucker.

                  Grow up and fix yourself.

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    He also said tariffs were a tax that other countries paid…so there may have been some confusion over what exactly they were agreeing to.

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      Idk why so many idiots keep harping on this when it doesn’t matter who actually gives the money to the government, it all ends up being borne by the end consumer. If china “paid” the tariffs to the government it would be exactly the same as if the importer did in terms of overall effect.

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      He said the economy would go up on day one, prices would go down and America would be in a golden age.

      He said the economy was doing great in 2024 because people were predicting He would win the election, and then when the economy went down in 2025 he put all the blame on Biden.

      I said this in 2016: he doesnt mean anything he says, he just says whatever he thinks in that moment will get him what he wants. He lies so frequently that you might as well just disregard everything he says because it doesnt have any basis in reality.

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      It doesn’t matter who pays the tariff. Anyone with half a brain knows that the cost will be passed down to the consumer either way.

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          Yep. Less than half a brain and less than half a heart. Amd absolutely no self-awareness.

          Socrates would chug a 20 ounce hemlock Mountain Dew just on principle after meeting an average American.

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        If you’re not informed and take Trump at his word, I can see how you might end up thinking the tariffs were a country-to-country transaction, like literally China paying the USA.

        In that case you wouldn’t necessarily arrive at the conclusion that the cost has to be passed on, along the value chain.

        But on the other hand I don’t have a good track record of estimating what uninformed people who don’t care to seek information think…

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          As a non-American it’s difficult to grasp how uninformed the average American voter is. It’s not that difficult to look up what tariffs really are.

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            It’s actually very difficult for them to look up what tariffs are, because they read below a 4th grade level and are functionally illiterate. Most explanations regarding tariffs that I have read seem to assume a European high school level of reading proficiency.

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            Pretty simple, they didn’t give it a second thought because there was never a first thought

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    This is why I think Trump stickers next to prices should say, “You did this.” He not only won’t except blame for anything but he’ll gladly shift blame to the people he’s hurting the most.

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    Maybe this will wake up these MAGA morons to pay attention to policy and not culture war manipulation when they vote? Doubt it, but here’s to hope.

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      Ask any trump voter why they voted for trump. They will say “because I like his policies more”. Ask them which policy do they think will benefit them, they will have no answer.

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      I doubt they are able to connect surging prices with the Trump tariffs. According to Trump, it’s Biden’s fault, and that’s all they need to hear.

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    Eventually he farts out a truth… You got what you voted for. It’s just the many morons that voted didn’t understand tariffs, basic human decency, or that fascism=bad.