I’d love to have a 32 hour week.
It’s been a struggle lately to get even 16 hours of work a week lately.
Turns out, problems are more complex than just what goes on in the US
you can have a 32 hour work week but you get paid for working 32 hours
I’m so fucking done, it will take 4 years for us to get a 40 hour workweek and yeah that’s great but it’s a fucking joke
Gracias Sheimbaum
Here in Colombia it were like that and did it work. I think it’s because not terrorize the right hand
yeah they gave us the same reasons here and I get it to certain extend. the same companies that have exploited us for decades were scared of this reduction and asked for this compromise.
I’m still mad that the so called “left leaning” president bent to their claims but was not able to secure TWO free days a week
leave your ai to cover for 8 hours. they’ll love it
So I used to work in industrial automation, and I did see a factory owner buy a robot to automate a task because it was a brain meltingly simple task that was unpopular with his workers. The robot was slower, and more expensive than a human.
It was taking a small piece of metal from a stack and putting it in a machine and pushing a button (not sure if he had a two-hand-no-tie-down set up) then taking the now bent price of metal out of the machine and putting it on a stack. I think they had about 8 hours production per week of demand for the part.
He didn’t do it out of the kindness of his heart but because he got tired of paying recruiters to find people willing to do it.
Yup.
Workers have to fight hard for every little thing, which is why it’s so sad to see us back pedal by electing born rich anti-worker dipshits into the highest offices in the land. We’re losing things that will take years and a lot of struggle to get back.
They didn’t just hand us the forty hour workweek. You can thank the early unions for that. Organizations like this.
Exactly. Productivity gains don’t magically turn into free time for workers unless people organize and demand it.
Right and why would it? If you let people take advantage, they will. Doesnt matter what’s right. Doing what’s right gets you fucked in this world. Literally people distrust you if you try to do what’s right. It’s a lonely existence and that’s fucking sad.
The grabbing hands grab all they can
All for themselves - after allIt’s a competitive world…
not really because it is a race to no where. Everybody is working but nothings getting done. It is the inverse a period of die back. It seems like they got something going but in reality the are trying to make us to pay for capitals mistakes. We ain’t building no infrastucture just boxes with gpus powering boring chat bots and spying on those with no skrilla. This is the end. The economy is shrinking. A pyramid with a brittle tip. No weight behind it to push it through. This is death not progress. K Shaped economy more like cancer shaped economy
This, I feel, is the real message behind Animal Farm
Worse, there’s actual practical evidence that a 4-day workweek for the same pay as the 5-day one still makes the company more money and the workers happier and healthier, but adoption is still glacial.
*fucking
There is no war but class war.
also the increase 30-40+hrs is design to exhaust people so they are to tired to protest for reforms socially, financially and to keep people disengaged from politics/ and information.
US labor laws and income distribution are pathetic.
The worst part is the majority of people actually want to work
From the perspective with decent workers rights in EU and I’m not against the reforms or improved payment.
Excluding capitalisms exploitation. Work does have a nice bonus of forcing a fixed structure and a simple goal. Those can be rather beneficial.
From personal experience, i do start to slowly drift towards depression during my mandatory 2 week vacations as oftentimes there just isn’t anything to do and i tend to doomscroll way too much. Nighttime sleep goes to shit and day-night cycle starts to shift. Sometimes even the 1 week vacation can be hard to manage.
Usually i do try to counter it by planning some home renovation for that time to keep me active.
So yeah, i do want to work, just under decent conditions.
That’s kind of on you for not having any fun activities on the side. You should really look into diversifying your occupations or you’ll just die when you hit retirement (or unemployment, or whatever).
Why do everyone always think i have no interests, when i say i like to work? Of course i have.
Like i love resistance training, but that’s luckily a rather self limiting activity, but takes absolute max few hours a day. I like PC gaming, but that’s really prone to hobby burnout. As a backup i have mini painting and I like to tinker/customize my PC, so there are enough activities to alternate between. In addition i like to work with my hands and there’s almost always some construction work/tinkering somewhere to be done. Though almost all of those activities can be rather costly.
To maintain that interest, i just have to do those sparingly. Otherwise i will suck any enjoyment out of those rather quickly. Of course i will return to those after a while, but just to once again suck any enjoyment out of those.
Yeah I’m fully aware that retirement will be rather difficult for me and I’m not planning to retire and if I’m forced, i have a long list of activities already lined up and retirement fund to fund those, but yeah it’s going to be hard and i will die rather quickly through just fading away.
Actually liking to work makes the unemployment part rather irrelevant, because theres always work to be done.
They don’t think you have no interests because you say you like to work.
They think you have no interests because you say:
From personal experience, i do start to slowly drift towards depression during my mandatory 2 week vacations as oftentimes there just isn’t anything to do and i tend to doomscroll way too much.
In my case, I have loaded myself up not just with hobbies and projects, but with ones that are often physical in nature and very different from my career at a desk writing code.
If I were forced to take the next two weeks off, I would probably get MORE “work” done but it would be according to what I find fulfilling at the time.
I think some people also struggle with the lack of routine when on a break from work. I know I do (though I am autistic) and it’s not necessarily that I want to be at work lol but it’s the lack of structure for the days. Waking up and not having a plan is very overwhelming for me and definitely gets me into a depression if it’s consecutive days without any structure.
I do think non-autistic people can struggle with this too - you definitely see with it retired people and others who say stuff like they just don’t know what to do when they’re not working or they come back from the break and are still feeling burnt out. Some people do need to more consciously plan for breaks so they can kinda make their own structure for the week or however long it is they have off. I used to have the same thing even at school - even though I hated school! 😅
So I think different people just need to figure out what works for them - some people can just take time off and go with the flow whereas others need to have a few things to do over the time off, some basic plans and others might need to make themselves a whole routine.
32!? I was thinking like…4?
Always start negotiations asking for (far) more than what you want!
Fine, make it 60!
