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        5 months ago

        Manchin and Sinema consistently voted against party lines and were known for being republicans running as democrats. They consistently blocked the DNC. This is a bad faith argument.

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            5 months ago

            Doesn’t matter, they set the boundaries for the party and they weren’t cast out or reprimanded effectively, ergo they led the Democratic party and the Biden administration.

            Democrats needed them to cooperate to get anything passed. If pressed too hard they would’ve switch republican and democrats would’ve gotten so little legislation passed that they would’ve been identical to the leftists that have never accomplished anything.

            This is a foreign concept to leftists because leftists don’t get elected let alone get legislation passed. Or understand the importance of voting as you’re proving.

            Working together to get a trusted candidate elected is also a foreign concept. That is why every progressive that gets elected ends up being a republican (Fetterman, Sinema, etc.).

            Yet we still have leftists complaining that the DNC won’t have open primaries. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me more than once, I must be a leftists.

            The DNC wins by trying to cater to as many voters as possible because that’s the job of a politician.

            Leftists consistently lose by refusing to work with anyone outside of their ideology which is just a small fraction of the voters.

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              Yes, their strategy of crowbarring in the candidate their funders want via superdelegate or just unilateral appointment has really appealed to the majority of voters

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                    5 months ago

                    Democrats have been winning without leftists since the 90s. After leftists tanked the 2024 election by not showing up to vote, democrats are better off appealing to centrists like they have every election win since the 90s.

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                5 months ago

                Trump lost by more than Harris in 2020 then came back and won. If he followed your advice he wouldn’t have won in 2024.

                Leave it to leftists (a group that never wins elections) to quit too soon.

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                    Leftists consistently lose elections and have never gotten a single piece of legislation passed. They are a very small fraction of all voters and they refuse to work with other ideologies. This guarantees they will continue to lose and never get any legislation passed.

                    Democrats are better off working with centrists because they actually show up to vote. Unlike leftists who can easily be tricked into not voting in their own best interest by using hot topics like Gaza or whatever the current event is.

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            The Democrats’ strategy is to appeal to as many voters as possible and work with people you might not agree with. They have won the majority of elections since the 90s with this strategy and gotten some legislation passed.

            Progressives’ strategy is to refuse to work with any other ideologies, criticize to an extent that spreads apathy and demand all or nothing. They have consistently lost because of this and gotten no legislation passed. But their strategy hasn’t changed…

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                5 months ago

                Yeah because leftist criticized Biden more than Trump. With leftists as your allies you don’t need enemies. Makes sense why leftists aren’t winning any elections.