The legislation takes aim directly at trans individuals using the restroom or locker rooms, threatening those who “knowingly” and “willfully” enter facilities designated for the “opposite biological sex” with prison time. A first offense would count as a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail. Those caught using the bathroom in repeated offenses, however, could be convicted as felons and face up to five years in prison.
It’ll be interesting to see how this aligns with the Full Faith and Credit clause for someone who updates their birth certificate from another state that allows for that then uses the bathroom that aligns with said certificate.
I’d be shocked if Idaho had bathrooms as nice as the picture in the whole state.
Now what is going to happen when a post-op trans man, who fully looks like a man, complies with this law by going into a women’s bathroom?
He’ll still be arrested or at the least harassed, and that’s the point. The goal is to prevent trans people from using any public bathrooms.
Pee on the door to it.
Public urination puts you on the sex offender registry
It’d say piss your pants in front of the bathrooms but then you’ve pissed your pants and some poor minimum wage teenager will have to clean it up.
Does that include public urination without the use of a penis? I know it probably does. Just giggling at the idea of some infinite loop where you can’t convict because the bathroom law doesn’t recognize a post op penis as male.
He will be arrested, and the news will report that a “trans-identified biological male” was in the women’s restroom. Fascists don’t give a fuck about internal consistency.
Post op is still trans. These people don’t care.
The bill doesn’t say “use the correct restroom”. It says “people we don’t like can’t use any restroom”
That’s how the title is worded, but it’s the usual BS “you must use the one that matches your biological sex” thing.
They don’t care. That goes right back to the whole point of these types of bills, which is to criminalize being transgender.
Once, I was told by the manager of a place I was at that I had to use the women’s bathroom. A cis man followed me in and beat me, only stopping when a woman told him to get out. I was a minor at the time, 15 or 16. He was a grown ass adult. This was all the way back in 2012, I’m pretty sure. Never used public bathrooms again until I left the US last year.
So, I guess if you’re a trans man, your choices are to comply with the law and get beaten (even if you’re a child, since as we know, this is all to protect the kids after all) or to not comply and get fined/arrested.
It’s two shitty choices: Use the one that people seem to see you as and be terrified someone will challenge your right to be there the whole time, or go in the one that you clearly don’t look like and have your ID ready for anyone who challenges your right to be there. Dystopian police state BS!
Gendered bathrooms should be banned. Things being gender-exclusive should generally be illegal (regarded as bigotry/hate).
JUST PUT REAL WALLS INSTEAD OF STALLS
I would agree, but…the line for the woman’s bathroom is so long…as long as there’s the same number of stalls and urinals as there would be if they were separated, I definitely support non-gendered!
yeah, i’m nonbinary. i like taking advantage of whichever line is shortest when my anus’s floodgates are about to give because hey, i don’t fit either box easily and we don’t want me shitting on the floor. turning it into one line takes that advantage away from me (i’d have to ask “hey everyone my pooper’s leaking can i cut the line” and that’s more embarrassing for y’all than me. trust me i can make it really embarrassing for y’all i practice) so i say leave the gendered bathrooms. or two nongendered bathrooms but people being so awkward they self-segregate. this is pure self-interest tho
Yeah and honestly I’m a woman but I’m going to use urinals as long as I’m still able, convenient af and hilarious every time to lift your skirt to use a urinal
ha! i’ve never seen a purple one before
some practical advice if it’s your first time using one of these: do not ignore the direction the wind is blowing. in fact, aim for nearby bushes or leaves if you can.
yes
obviously there would be the same number overall
availability would actually be higher as there would be twice as many available to the individual
I can see places cheaping out and just having one bathroom for both that’s the size of just one of them, but it would be a small price to pay to get rid of this terrorizing of trans people…or just anyone who doesn’t appear to fit into specific gender roles.
That… already happens. Tons of smaller restaurants/cafes I’ve been to have a solitary nongendered restroom with one toilet and a sink.
at my workplace when I first transitioned there was a single gender-neutral bathroom in the entire building, and it was frequently occupied because every white woman in the building had the same idea to use it as the “pooping” toilet … so when I was early transition and didn’t pass, instead of use the women’s restroom on the same floor as my colleagues (where I might run into them and make them uncomfortable), I would have to walk to another floor of the building to use another business’s women’s restroom so I didn’t run the risk of seeing anyone I know.
I understand trans people aren’t that common and it can feel absurd to have all this infrastructure for a small minority you never see, but … like, sometimes we do exist and need to use the toilet that was built and set aside for us to use. (I’m sure people with disabilities feel the same way, as the gender-neutral toilet is also often the one built to be ADA compliant and accessible.)
Are you a republican woman with broad shoulders, a big nose, or a square jaw. Congrats, the Karens are now going to ask the cops to look at your junk.
Wow at this rate the only transgender bathroom left will be Charlie Kirk’s gravestone.
Give the kid a rest, will ya? He’s already had it up to his neck in gun violence.
Man, I did not know Idaho was so dominated by lunatics.
northern idaho is nazi paradise. southern idaho is mormons. boise has some sanity but it’s a lone island
I’ve got family there, it’s the Mormons who were too crazy for slc or wanted more space but same crazy bullshit dogma, and loooots of racism
As a Canadian, I could have guessed… There’s a sort of obvious pattern that’s emerged over the last couple of decades involving the less populated areas being the most deathly afraid of the world at large, thanks in large part to the sample biases incepted through social media.
Right wingers are all such goddamn freaks I swear.
And snowflakes
What the actual fucking fuck? Is it better to piss in the streets? Shit their pants on a crowded bus?
Ah, those will be felonies too. The point is to make it illegal to exist if you’re trans. And the point of that is cruelty, an insatiable need that Republicans have.
In future MAGAmeriKKKa, we will be a nation of laws, and we will have many more laws than today, and they will be punished harshly. Those who violate the law will be incarcerated in one of the detainment centers being constructed at this moment. Then they will be leased out to corporations as Federal 13th Amendment work Slaves.
I cant wait for all the CIS conservatives who inevitably get arrested/genital inspected due to this law, and the inevitable crying of “It wasnt supposed to affect me, I feel so humiliated and attacked over this egregious invasion of my body” with zero self awareness or irony.
I’m scared of laws like this because I’m a cis woman and I have natural facial hair
Laws like this always put non-conservative-traditional women in the crosshairs. Moreso than trans people, despite specifically attacking trans people, simply due to how many more CIS people there are than trans.
The goal is far greater than that. Cis people, and especially cis women, are going to be deliberately caught up in this, not accidentally. Once the sheep have been convinced that trans people are irredeemably evil, watch as the definition of “trans” expands ever-outward. Are you a woman that wears pants? That sounds like cross-dressing to me. Oh, you want to work a job like engineering? Learn to appreciate your biological sex, you transgender freak! Stop pretending to be a man and get a career appropriate to your biological sex.
You are loved. You are fine the way you are. The world has a place for you. You are not alone.
I know Idaho is bleak right now but there are many areas much more accepting than Idaho.
It’s hard but I strongly encourage moving somewhere more blue. As someone that lives in a blue stronghold the cults is much more accepting than these places.
Boise isn’t down for the count yet. Last year when the state started coming after Pride flags on government property the Mayor and City Council adopted the Pride flag as our city flag. The state legislature has been trying to figure out how to override that ever since. We ran the Hammerskins out of town when they tried to have a music festival, we’ve put MAGAt business owners out of business, we’ve got a lot of teachers and librarians operating malicious compliance to the anti-woke mandates, and I’ve seen more than a few bigots get their teeth knocked out and heads stomped. They might have taken over our state but they haven’t taken over our city.
Moscow Idaho is also still holding out for a bit longer. Lots of trans people going there as a stepping stone to get to Seattle, it’s got Inland Oasis running pride and drag events and doing a lot of work making queer spaces. It is currently being literally invaded by christo fascists so I worry it’s a matter of time but for now at least it’s still a decent place (especially compared to most other parts of Idaho though I know that bar is so low you’d need a shovel to find it). I wish Boise all the best in their resistance
We allow our pet dogs to piss anywhere. Yet if you can’t find a “public” bathroom, or find some business to buy a pack of gum for 25c, in order to be a customer to use their restroom, and you piss in an alley around the corner, you face charges like indecent exposure. All because you had to do some very basic natural function but society had placed obstacles and then labels you a criminal. Yet somehow everyone is so goddamn concerned over which bathroom you use.
The U.S. constitution is so old that the writers didn’t see it being a problem (presumably) to not have an explicit right to bodily autonomy.
didn’t see it being a problem (presumably) to not have an explicit right to bodily autonomy.
I mean, the bulk of them did own other human beings as property…
Brother I hate to be the bearer of bad news
John Adams’s wife, Abigail, wrote him a letter when he was off with the boys at the Continental Congress. She was picking a bone about the lack of protections given to women from their husbands and likened the relationship to that of the colonies and Britain. She was suggesting women should be codified to have more rights. He wrote back something like, “As to your extraordinary code of laws, I cannot but laugh.”
The founding fathers were just as misogynistic as any MAGA fuckhead.
Yes men were like that 240 years ago
Many still are
She was suggesting women should be codified to have more rights. He wrote back something like, “As to your extraordinary code of laws, I cannot but laugh.”
Now I’m curious what rights she felt they should be codified to have.
Why haven’t we adopted gender neutral bathrooms on a global scale?
Shut the fuck up, regard. If we did that how the hell would we be able to attack this easy target of vulnerable people?!
The real reason? Because men can’t control themselves and women have reasons to fear for their safety in closed spaces with them.
There are gender neutral bathrooms all over the place.
It’s a sexist idea that men can’t control themselves.
Congrats on missing the obvious commentary and point OP was making.
Men are entirely capable of controlling themselves, I can attest to that personally.
Your’s isn’t an argument, it’s the confession of a predator.
Next time, maybe duck. Because holy shit that went right over your head.
You’re the “not all men” type, eh?
No, every single man is capable of controlling themselves, you’re just a psychopath.
Edit: Why should I have ducked if it had already been going over my head? Also, it’s hilarious that you of all people would try to use “I was just joking” as a reply, considering what I’ve seen from your other comments. Were you just joking when you were talking about how you want to censor trans folks out of existence?
Also, you’re into prediction markets and crypto. You are a giant fucking red flag, holy shit.
Also, you’re into prediction markets and crypto. You are a giant fucking red flag, holy shit.
I’m into what? Lmao no I’m not. I’d love to see how you came to that conclusion.
considering what I’ve seen from your other comments. Were you just joking when you were talking about how you want to censor trans folks out of existence?
You are DEFINITELY thinking of someone else, considering I’m married to a trans person… And in a poly relationship with another trans woman.
Edit: On second thought I’m just gonna block you.
Our country sent a cruise missile into a school full of children last week.
They sent two or three missiles in the school. It was a double-tap strike meant to maximize casualties. Some reports say it was a triple-tap.
So now what? Use the “India method” and use the streets as toilet?
The title is a lie. They are still allowed to use the bathroom corresponding to their gender assigned at birth. From the article:
The Idaho House passed legislation that could make it a felony for transgender people to step foot in a bathroom matching their gender identity.
The title isn’t technically true but it is practically true in many cases. What is a post-op trans person supposed to do? They don’t look like the sex they were born as and will surely look out of place if they use the bathroom they’re legally supposed to. It will also lead to trouble for people like me, who are cis but can be mistaken for trans (I’m a woman with facial hair). And what about intersex people?
Oh, I don’t dispute that it is a horrible law! It just doesn’t justify the title lying about it.
Can we maybe not put down minority groups while trying to support different minorities?
You do know that the India government had to do a campaign to say “poop on the toilet”, right? And 1200 million people is not a minority.
Again, how is a public health campaign relevant to the discussion? You just like taking pot shots for no reason, I don’t post about Americans eating so much processed food we have wheelchairs to get around a grocery store but somehow can’t feed school children.
I use a unisex bathroom in Austin that had urinals and stalls. I felt like such a badass when I kept my composition while making a peepee while three women passed behind me going in and out of the bathroom.
And when I went to wash my hands, no one looked at each other or said hi or anything. The way it should be in a bathroom. Quit talking to me while I’m trying to not pee on the floor, guys!
The coolest bathroom experience I have ever had was when I attended my sister’s graduation ceremony from university.
There was a white tie dinner party after the ceremony, and every one was dressed up, it was a super happy and friendly atmosphere, full of beautiful men and women.
Anyway, I had to go to the toilet, so I found the men’s room and opened the door…
…and immediately got confused…
…the first thing I saw was a beautiful woman in a crowd of other beautiful men and women!
The party kept going!
And the most remarkable thing was that the wall between the women’s and men’s rooms wasn’t there.
Instead there was a really cool central sink and booths on either side.
It was brilliant!
Thank you for sharing that story; I had a similar dream just a few months ago! But in my dream, some “premium” stalls had bidets in them, and the stalls were floor to ceiling with relaxing music playing inside, so I got to enjoy the most relaxing public poop ever! I’m honestly surprised that I didn’t piss the bed with a dream like that…
