Stores the user’s birth date for age verification, as required by recent laws in California (AB-1043), Colorado (SB26-051), Brazil (Lei 15.211/2025), etc.
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We have different concepts on what “verified” data is.
Systemd has a field which could be used to store age, which a system which has age verification could use to store the age.
Just like the system which performs age verification could store that information in a file.
I guess ext4 is age verification as it allows storing age of birth.
Yeah, thats not age verification…
Didn’t they shitcan the age verification thing in systemd and they fire the guy who put it in? Or was that just a joke post?
Name: Biggus Dickus DOB: 06/09/1969
@mazzilius_marsti @Deceptichum
OMG! I’ve been dox’d, I feel so naked…I think I went to highschool with your wife…
And it can be used to verify how old you are.
How?
This is the part I’m hung up on. What actually physically happens to make me enter my real birthday in the systemd user field, and verify it’s actually my birthday?
January 1 1900 has been my official online birthday forever.
I guess the idea is that your parents store the date and you don’t get root access (or you store the date for your kids and don’t give them root access).
Then what? What stops the kids downloading and running whatever software they like?
I was born on January 1st, whichever year before 2000 that I first click on.
Right? I’m not scrolling that far down. Somewhere within the last 18 years is good enough.
within??
I’m a dog on the Internet.
If I say I’m 10 I’m actually 77 and to suggest otherwise is discrimination.
Well there’s no arguing with that…
How does it verify anything if it’s not proven in any way?
It doesn’t verify how old you are, it verified that you entered a certain set of numbers at some point.
It is not age verification
It could be used as part of a age verification system but it isn’t by itself age verification. You are doing the equivalent of calling a set of tires a car.
how can i stop the government?
Its only age verification if you set it up.
Not even that
There is no verification what so ever. If anything it might be an age check
My dog could make an account if he could just enter a birthday.
It’s the verification part of age verification that is the issue.
question: do california, colorado, or brazil’s laws have any teeth?
what is the penalty if i lie? (a) and am an adult? (b) and am a minor? [i don’t really care but for completeness sake]
also, you know those websites that ask for your age so you can see the vidya trailers? will this bypass that so i can just see the redband or am i going to have to put in 1/1/1970 TWICE GODSDAMMIT
The ca law specifically requires parental configuration of new devices and they do not restrict content. It is there to prevent algorithmic feeds and data collection of minors. It is not age verification and does not allow for content restrictions.
Other places want to use the os to restrict content. There are lobbyists trying to get it to tie an ID to your os and to restrict/report content.
I better question in terms of the teeth of the laws is, are there any real consequences to an operating system provider just ignoring them and not providing any kind of age verification in their software whatsoever?
The question I assume will get answered soon enough by GrapheneOS since they have told everyone asking for OS age verification to go pound sand.
Only penalty in this law is for OS makers that didn’t include such rules in the OS, paying per affected child.
and who is the os maker…??
In my head, your first word sounded like Dwight Schrute
It hasn’t passed in Colorado
picking november 5 1955 because it’s a fixed point in time
01/01/1900
Because I like chaos.
1970-01-01 necause it is 0
It can’t actually be used to verify anything. As implemented, it just reports whatever you entered. It’s just as valid as those birthday fields on websites that cater to users that share a 1st of January birthday.
I think we all know where we are headed
The best kind of age verification
Do you also feel compelled to provide your true name on the “user name” field?
Do and I’m tired of pretending I don’t
