caseyweederman

Huh. Now you’ve got me thinking. Are snaps redeemable? Are they forkable?

Ansyruple

systemd: “Yeah sure, here you go, some integers maybe. Could just be some zeroes, who cares, not me”
bunch of lazy reaction-baited dummies: “it’s age verification!”

Okay
Look at the pull request
Tell me how it verifies anything. It’s a field.
I’m not arguing about the politics. The law is laughably inept at best and horrifyingly insidious at worst (and the truth is likely both at the same time).
But again, read the change, read the comments, tell me what verification is happening.

I’m Jeremy from System76. We are in talks with legislators and there are likely to be amendments to the age verification bills, as well as conflicting requirements in different jurisdictions. It may even be the case that open source operating systems are exempted entirely. I detailed this on the xdg mailing list here:

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2026-March/014797.html

I have other concerns about this specific implementation. By relying on systemd, which is decidedly unportable to non-Linux operating systems, and not used across all Linux operating systems either, it will force at least one alternative implementation to exist. If these implementations end up having to collect jurisdiction specific requirements, that makes it much harder for compliance.
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954#issuecomment-4032221990

Okay.
How does it verify?

“While our lawyers are fighting it in court, we decided to whip up the barest minimum viable proof of concept so that if it does come to pass, at least it’ll be on our terms, and not a rushed piece of easily-exploitable garbage pushed out at the last second” the systemd team, probably

Edit: source, two weeks ago, the pull request conversation: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954#issuecomment-4032221990

Oh wait
I read the link
Gobo Linux just turns / into /opt

Just shove everything into /opt, all the big professional companies are doing it! They’d never take shortcuts, right?

It is possible that California law will be changed. But similar ideas are popping up in other contexts and it’s unlikely that they’ll all go away. This implementation is fairly generic and useful for other things besides age verification, so we shouldn’t decide whether to merge it or not based on a single law in any jurisdiction.

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954#issuecomment-4032355482