Seems Johnson knows this. Both him and Trump will keep this shutdown going to stop the forced release of these files it seems. Don’t know what kind of plan they’re cooking up though.

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    Trump biographer Michael Wolff told the Daily Beast that he had personally seen “about a dozen Polaroid snapshots” of Trump and Epstein, in which Trump was photographed with several topless young women on his lap. Wolff said Epstein pulled the photos out of a safe and spread them out “like a deck of cards” on his dining room table.

    I bet that is the least compromising thing in those files.

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    I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.

    President of the United States

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    Covfefe’s law: Trump always turns out to be worse than anyone imagined, even when you take into account Covfefe’s law.

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      At the holidays no less. And today my city had a 2-mile long traffic jam leading to the food bank. This is definitely going sideways quickly.

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        The amount of blatant harm that they are willing to do in order to keep those file from being released says everything. We have an entire country being crippled just because one person doesn’t want to be exposed.

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    America feels like it’s evil. Maybe all the people fighting against American culture were right all along.

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      i mean looking up what the usa did, they definitly dont come accross as the good guys.

      and like even that it is called “fighting against american culture”… i dont know, noone called it " fighting against communist/ russian culture" back then either in the usa

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        it is called “fighting against american culture”…

        That’s a good thing.

        American exceptionalism has been a constant background theme in their movies, TV shows, publishing and other “cultural exports” since the start of their country.

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          im probably wrong, but i feel like i only have had this phrase ever heard beeing used to describe stuff the middle east

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    Even if the files contain irrefutable proof that Trump trafficked and raped children with Epstein, Johnson and the GOP know that his base will either dismiss it as ‘fake news’, AI or otherwise convince themselves that Trump raped kids because the Democrats used their mind control ray to set him up.

    I suspect the real reason they want to keep it under wraps is to protect their billionaire donors who will be named in the files.

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      Maybe partly. These files scare Trump, too. That’s why he keeps lashing out, trying to deflect. He’s scared of losing respect… And remember, when he goes, MAGA will fall apart.

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      I figure a big reason they haven’t just released some doctored files clearing their names ages ago is the threat of mutually assured destruction from anyone else on the list

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    How many people have access to the files right now? Not a single one is doing the right thing. Complicit. If I happened across those files, they would have to murder me to stop them leaking. The level of apathy genuinely makes me wonder if it’s wickedness or some sort of actual brain damage from some chemical or virus we haven’t found yet.

    Fuck

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      Did you not notice the part where Epstein committed suicide, Giuffre was hit by a bus, survived, and then committed suicide, and Maxwell was paid a closed-door visit by Trump’s personal fixer?

      They have and will continue to kill to keep these secrets.

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      If they’re leaked and not officially released, then Trump denying their authenticity (a given) will convince more idiot centrists.

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    I mean, they’re hosting a historical shutdown specifically to prevent their release. We already knew they were damning.

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    Remember, this case is about dozens of rich men raping young girls and the only person who’s in jail is a women.

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    RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES PEDONALD

    I wouldn’t doubt it if he diddled little boys too. Or at least laughed when his close friends did. Disgusting fucking cancer…

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    It was obvious this was the case when they fought so hard to prevent the release. They continued with it even when it’s clear that the actions they’re taking to keep it hidden it’s damaging for them.

    My bet is that there’s video evidence of Trump raping a minor, or maybe a recording of him admitting it. I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

    At this rate they’re gonna keep this up until Trump dies.

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      There actually IS a piss tape and it’s underage girls involved. I’m sure Epstein’s circle included unscrupulous Russian oligarchs.

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        Yep. It’s not “just” kids cos he could claim “he was drunk and didn’t know their age!”. It’s worse. It involves piss, bestiality, torture etc.

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      I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

      Like their podcast “heroes”, I’m just asking questions here, but:

      What if Trump didn’t just rape kids? He had beauty pageants where he admitted to walking in on naked teenagers to “inspect” them. He walked around “interviewing” contestants, asking them about their lives. He himself specifically chose a decent percentage of the finalists - and by claiming those spots for certain chosen people, significantly reduced the chances for other contestants. And there were not only the contestants, but a bunch of wannabe contestant-types on the fringes. And a lot of those contests were held overseas.

      So, just asking questions here, but: what if Donald Trump wasn’t just raping kids? What if he was actively involved in recruiting and trafficking them?

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          As heartless as this sounds… that trafficking ring wouldn’t have been successful enough to demand billionare clientele prices. This is the guy who bankrupted a casino.

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        This was my thought as well. A lot of what has come to light feels like he may have been more than a customer for Epstein and possibly a supplier via his businesses and Russian criminal contacts

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        It’s hard to speculate on things like that, but when he openly admitted to reporters that Epstein took girls from his spa, it means the investigation would have to be reviewing such

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        Perhaps Trump is also a cannibal; who knows, maybe… the man doesn’t seem to have any morals at all.

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          Well we know his food preferences are worse than abysmal so. I doubt the cannibal thing unless the baby is well done with ketchup.

          Still with trump it never gets better you know?

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          Oh yeah he did that. Also stuck his fingers in their mouths to “check their teeth” per Noel Cassler.

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        I think there’s evidence that they were business partners in the trafficking operation. Trump owned children beauty pageants, he had girl servants at one of his resorts, reports of some of those girls winding up with Epstein… I bet there are financial transactions proving it.

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          Yep, this is the big story in it I think as well. Sen. Ron Wyden has been investigating the Epstein financial ties and has uncovered billions in suspect wire transfers that several big banks bent the rules on for him.

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            The reason for their fall out was because of these financial ties. They’ve admitted this part.

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          Not to mention the deep ties all of this has with Mossad, the British royalty through Prince Andrew, the Clintons, Bill Gates (look how he has flipped his script lately)…… all the clearly documented high profile people involved, we have heard little snippets about their unusual sexual behavior but never the full Monty. I think it’s Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein levels of the looking the other way and covering things up for years. But this time it’s the leaders of nations and industry caught with their pants down.

          If I was a CIA/mossad agent looking to have leverage on leaders, I would throw lavish parties. Invite everyone important. Keep it straight up at first, then ease into giving small hints about the availability of party favors and women and see who bites. Trap them in unfavorable situations and use that to coerce. Pretty straight forward. If it’s damning enough, you own them.

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        Trump wasn’t just a customer. He was Epstein’s partner and Mar-a-Lago was a hub for international sex trafficking, including child sex trafficking.

        They’re not the Epstein files. They’re the Trump files.

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          This is my thought as well. He has to be in there to such an extent that if they removed all mention of him, what was left would fit on a fucking post it. Otherwise they would have tried to release it with a few pages “lost” and blamed Biden.

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      I don’t know what else could be more damning than that.

      Active participation in not just the rape but the trafficking operation, the big reveal being that he actually solicited these “services” to tons of so far unnamed people?

      Remember this isn’t just about Trump. He’s protecting those padding his pockets and pulling his strings.

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        Don’t forget killing. Maybe they pushed an underage girl out of a jet at altitude. Wouldn’t be off brand.

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          Nah. He wasn’t wrong when he said his followers wouldn’t give a damn if he shot a man in the middle of Fifth Ave.

          The only thing MAGA actually seems to genuinely care for - aside from their constant need to feed their rage and despicable beliefs like racism - is being against paedophilia. They might not care enough about kids to actually offer their tax money to ensure all of them gets to eat, gets proper education, but at the very least a majority of them doesn’t want powerful men to rape them. Which, I guess, is a small win?

          Therefore anything that is truly damaging to Trump will be kid-diddling related.

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          Not easy or safe to the passengers on the plane. It also doesn’t disappear the body.

          Overall this seems like the least likely thing that could have happened.

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            I do sometimes wonder about some people’s fantasies about planes. It would have been much simpler to kill someone on the island and use the gigantic amount of water to hide evidence. Simply putting a body in a ‘shark cage’ would be enough to have everything but the bones disappear, pushing it out to sea would almost certainly have it never be found, hell, simply doing with it whatever you do with the rest of your trash would probably work… like, when you own an island, the amount of ways you have to hide things is insane.

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            Yeah i mean, he’s a coward too. Maybe on one of his coke fueled helicopter rides to Atlantic City tho.

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      There could be video of him and his mushroom penetrating someone underage and so many of his meathead cult members will claim it’s “AI” or something.

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        The only thing that matters to them is in-group solidarity. They are bad people. That is a bad person world view.

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      How is that more dancing then what he has already said. Walking in on miss green US change rooms grabbing them by the pussy. He has literally admitted to sexual assaulting the contestants and nobody cares. Just like when/if these files come out nobody well care.

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        I don’t think that nobody will care, but I think the point you’re trying to make is that his supporters won’t care. That we can definitely agree upon.

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        I don’t think that’s the case. He said both things but not at the same time. Those are two different gross stories getting mashed together.

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      bet is that there’s video evidence of Trump raping a minor

      Just delay until AI video is good enough to claim it’s AI.

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    This is the Panama papers all over again. Another way of proving everyone in power is corrupt and we’ll do fuck all about it.

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      I think this is a little different because I believe in unreleased form this is more of a monkey on the Trump fandom’s back. Had they just been released at the start, there would have been massive coverage for a week, but MAGA would believe that Trump’s different by being open and transparent about it, and Democrats are just whining and people would forget about it much like the Papers. Whereas this way, it’s clear the Republican swamp has something it REALLY doesn’t want to reveal, to the point they’d be willing to starve the country and hold the entire government hostage over releasing them.

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        We already know Trump is a rapist who likes underage girls. That has been proven without a doubt on multiple occasions. What does hanging out with another guy who does so change, especially since that’s another thing we’ve already known for years?

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            I think you may be misinterpreting. He did not say it has been proven trump raped little girls.

            He stated trump is a rapist, this has been proven is a court of law.

            He stated that trump likes little girls. This has been proven time and time again, from trumps comments on his own daughter to trump walking in on children changing for a beauty pageant. Lets not forget “when youre famous, they let you do it”

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              Yeah that he’s a rapist is a matter of record. That he was adjudicated as such after the statute of limitations ran out is why he’s not a listed sex offender.

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                Saying Trump is a rapist is a bonfifed fact. It’s very hard to convict anyone of rape, and yet the fucker was found guilty.

                Anyone who says Trump isn’t one, is one of his cult members or wants to be one like him.

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                  To be clear, he wasn’t found guilty because it wasn’t a criminal trial. The judge ruled, on the balance of probabilities that it was more likely that he raped Carroll than he didn’t. That’s a different bar than for criminal trials which require that it is beyond a reasonable doubt that he raped Carroll.

                  Now my personal opinion is that he absolutely raped her beyond a reasonable doubt, and that he has definitely raped others on numerous occasions, but sadly those aren’t legal facts as he hasn’t been found guilty of them by a criminal trial jury or judge.