Paradox of tolerance is resolved when you view tolerance as a treaty. If one side breaks it, they no longer benefit from it.

If two factions are fighting and call a truce, and then one side starts fighting again, it’s nonsense to tell the first side not to fight back because there’s a treaty. The treaty has been broken.

There’s a Sartre quote about that.

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-anti-semites-are-completely-unaware-of-the-absurdity

I think a root cause is conservative emotion driven decisions. Some people will look at facts and from them draw conclusions. Conservatives prefer feeling things and from them deciding what to do. Cities feel scary and alien to them so they must be full of crime and danger.

It’s probably not a coincidence that religion, the kind that prioritizes feelings and faith, is also popular among the right.

They’re shitty people by most reasonable metrics.

Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit and the world is better without him. I will cheer for every unrepentant maga scumbag that dies.

Did the onion write a piece about how we should reflect on Unnamed Nazi #342 in Indiana Jones’s life and family yet? “Sure, Unnamed Nazi #342 willingly joined an organization focused on subjugation and mass murder of people, but it’s important to remember that he also had a family. They were looking forward to living in a house stolen from the people he helped murder, and living off the fruits of slave labor.”

They don’t care about what words mean. They will say anything, anything, to try to secure power. They are bad people. They are bad people.

Two things can share one property without being the same in all ways.

Doctors cut people up and sometimes take organs out, but they aren’t the same as a serial killer doing the same.

Kirk doesn’t deserve a minute of silence. He was a scum bag. His ideas were trash. He got what he was due.

…yes? Is that on the agenda?

Few people cry when Nazis die in movies about the 30s. Why should the modern equivalent get a pass?

Don’t pretend he wouldn’t have gleefully participated in that. He was an ardent trump supporter, and thus an ardent supporter of concentration camps.

Sometimes people are horrible and I’m not upset when horrible things happen to them.

I think people look at the past and go “oh yeah it’s a good thing those Nazis died in the 40s, and it’s a good thing those klansmen died in the 60s” and so on, but when it’s today people are like “oh no this isn’t appropriate”

But also yes something is wrong here and it’s scary. Climate change, the rise of fascism, consolidation of power in the hands of the cruel and stupid, rising wealth inequality. The world is fucked and it’s people like Charlie Kirk who deserve most of the blame.

Few people are saying “go shoot your Republican neighbor” (though I would probably nullify that too, as a juror) but the bigger dogs? Fuck them. They made their choice to make the world worse every day for years.

Shapiro still goes outside. He could still get kirked.

I really really think people over estimate the power of martyrdom.

Do you know who Fred Hampton was? If not, proves my point. I think most people don’t know who he was, and he definitely would have done more for the world if he hasn’t been assassinated.

The word “charismatic” is really not necessary there. Fucking New York Times - going slightly out of their way to coddle right wing extremists.

Well, he’s dead, so that’s a plus. He died in an embarrassing way, so that’s also a plus. Maybe the next would-be shithead will decide “nah, I’m not going to be a right wing grifter. I might get shot dead like Charlie Kirk”. That’s probably the biggest plus.

right? they could’ve just said nothing

They’re going to do fascism no matter what! They don’t care about truth. They can just make shit up if they need to rile up their supporters.

Trump is a scumbag and everyone who supports him is either a scumbag, too, or a fool. None of them should be allowed to have any power.

It’s an error to try to appeal to trump supporter’s reason. They are drunk on the high of in-group belonging. You don’t reason with a drunk person about why screaming “mr brightside” while half naked in the middle of the highway a bad idea. You make him stop.

“Man covered in blood sick of being asked about blood soaked knives in locked cabinet in home” ?

Anti-american sentiment is largely justified. There’s concentration camps and masked men kidnapping people off the street. People are proudly wearing the maga-hat symbols of trumpism.

It’s hard to get people to care about things. I’ve gotten a couple people to switch to signal (which I hope is good), but I have one holdout who keeps saying “ill switch later”. I don’t understand why “take 3 minutes to install signal” can’t be done right now, but I’m not a mess of depression, anxiety, and debt, so I’ve just been giving them gentle reminders every so often.