And less than 24 hours after Donald announced this “everlasting peace”, Palestinians were still being killed in Gaza, aid trucks stopped from going into Gaza and a row broke out about the failure of Hamas to return the bodies of dead Israeli hostages.

All of these grim, and sadly all too predictable factors, threaten to topple the whole ceasefire process.

Palestinian health officials reported that seven people inspecting their homes in east Gazawere killed by Israeli drones, violating the fragile ceasefire.

The Israeli military denied this, telling The Independent that the individuals had passed through a “yellow line” to which they had withdrawn. Israeli journalists, however, suggest that the military has invisible lines that Palestinians unknowingly cross.

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    Anyone who didn’t see this as the pre-Nobel publicity stunt it was is an absolute nut sack of a human being.

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    This was just a publicity stunt because the entire world is enraged at Netanyahu and Trumpler and they were starting to get scared. Zionists have been very clear about their “final solution” nothing has changed.

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    Show me a ceasefire agreement during this conflict which Israel has not immediately and blatantly disregarded?

    Israel is the biggest perpetrator of terrorism in the world. Genocidal freaks with far higher civilian kill rates than any other conflict. They aren’t going to stop this ethnic cleansing and land grab willingly, because they are demented terrorists.

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    Imagine being dumb enough to think some hostages being released means a much larger conflict is magically over.

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    Nah its all good. He just needs to keep repeating how it worked and its all great despite what is obviously happening in front of our faces. Just like ice N junk.

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      Some people were stupid enough to think this was genuine? Netanyahu and his ilk were laying the groundwork to violate the agreement nearly immediately.

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    Why are serious journalists even calling this a cease-fire anymore? Just because Israel says it is? Even though they keep opening fire on people?

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      to get it written down that they did something ‘positive’ to try and manipulate history. that’s it… it’s lying to the future humans, or attempts at it.

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        Israel needs to force the opinion to sway their way or they would be the worst country since Hitler took over Germany. Horrible historical read if it hasn’t even been 100 years and the next Hitler is Jewish.

        Edit: Just because it’s a free run cage doesnt mean its any better.

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      Because they work for Israel and are part of the propaganda apparatus.

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      You didn’t read? It was and I quote “historic” what Trump did! That’s what almost all news are saying, isn’t it?
      Like nothing was staged to look like Trump stoped an another war.
      What’s next for him, the Russia-Ukraine war? But how he will do it?

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        But how he will do it?

        Wait until Zelenskyy wins with European backing, then claim credit while shit-talking the actual participants. I mean, come on, he’s a fiddle with one string, and on that, he only knows how to play one tired tune.

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    Are you telling me that the turnip in chief didn’t end a forever war that’s been raging for thousands of years? Quelle surprise!

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      The Israeli/Palestinean issue isn’t even 100 years old, although your point is still valid!

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        I meant more the jewish peoples fighting the muslim peoples which to be fair is only like 1500 years old not a few thousand but I’m always a bit hyperbolic when I wake up.

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          I mean, there wasn’t a Jewish state for hundreds of years before Islam was founded, so I don’t think it is really comparable.

          Jews were alternately accepted or oppressed (up to and including torture and what we now call genocide) basically forever, basically everywhere. But the idea that Jews and Muslims have been at each other’s throats for thousands of years is not really true, IMHO.

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            Through the Middle Ages, Muslims discriminated against Jews (as they did against all non-Muslim monotheists). That meant they paid higher taxes but were exempt from military service (to really get fucked with under Muslim rule, try being polytheistic or an atheist). In that same era, Christians alternated between welcoming Jews (with various restrictions) and murdering them.

            On the other hand, there was a centuries-long series of conflicts between Christians and Muslims. That started with the collapse of the rotten edifice that was the Byzentine Empire, and continued with an extended period of Europe tring to overcome its factionalism in order to contain the Ottomans.

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    I think pretty much all cease fires are pretty rocky at first, even ones that go on to be successful. People were killing each other for a reason - it’s hard to just turn that off. It remains to be seen whether this will be successful or not, it’s up to the leadership.

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        What’s hard is trusting that the person across the way with a gun is NOT going to shoot you even though they would have 10 minutes ago.

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      People were killing each other for a reason - it’s hard to just turn that off.

      It’s not; it happens all the time. Israel simply doesn’t want to because they never had any intention of honoring the “ceasefire” in the first place, just like they never honored any other ceasefire they’ve signed with a weaker force.