Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region
Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European leaders leaked out.
Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two senior European officials.
Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.
Makes sense. Draw a north south line from moscow and the parts of ukraine west of it become russia while the parts of russia east of it become ukraine. Would provide a nice buffer for the nordic countries and help belarus to rethink its way of life.
He who drinks with the enemy while his ally bleeds is no hero but a fool. You grant him honor while he seeks to burn your and your ally’s home. No word of peace holds meaning while his sword is still raised against those who stand with you.
Install troops in Ukraine and show Putin already god damn it. That makes putin mad? Good that will make EU more unified. And its not like putin is gonna drop nuclear bombs cause thats suicide :) So bring him to his knees.
Okay, well, the last time I made this joke it came true, so I’m going to throw some salt over my shoulder after I say it, but how about instead of that, we just give Russia about 20,000 square miles of Alaska. We can start with the entirety of the Aleutian Island chain (about 6,800 sq. miles), and then work out some chunk of the mainland for the rest. That seems reasonable.
And if that does come true, then by God I’m going to go out and buy a lottery ticket.
Backing in this case meaning supporting, I assume. Backing in my language more means reversing.
Yeah, as in covering/supporting someone’s back.
It’s comically and frustratingly obvious that his “ideas” are simply “whatever the last guy he talked to said”
Yup. If you had Trump’s ear for a few minutes, he is incredibly easy to manipulate.
Yup, upcoming summit with Zelenskyy and the EU, and his tone will change after that.
trump logic dictates that trump should give up portions of mar-a-lago back to the American People.
This’ll be the second time they’ve taken territory from Ukraine and gotten away with it. They’ll probably take Belarus once that dictator dies, and they’ll eventually take Moldova since they already control part of it. They’ll keep trying to take all of Ukraine until it happens.
So I think I missed something? Why is Trump thinking he has a say in this?
Because the usa is still the major military power and he is the president now.
Since if Ukraine don’t listen, US will cut off military aid.
Which unfortunately, Ukraine need since no one else can provide the numbers and TACO would likely even block EU and AU from buying US weapons if they were intended for Ukraine.
Meanwhile he’s giving away Alaska to Putin.
It was obvious three days ago, but it’s painfully obvious now why Trump has initiated quasi martial law in DC.
would he really refuse to sell something?!
Well, he’s a bitch, so yeah if his boss tells him so he’s too little of a man to stick up to him.
One angle of analysis is, that this war is a proxy war between the world‘s hegemon and a state that does not want to be subjugated to their rule, but rather insists on their own sovereignty.
The power balance in the world tipped in the (now) hegemons favor with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Since then the US further increased the pressure on the remnants of the old world power, Russia, through their military alliances they have with other, subjugated, western states.
The US works to stay the only power in the whole world, which is right now a so-called unipolar world, but lots of other countries aim for a multipolar world, because they don‘t want to suffer under the heavy boot of the US. Some might even strive to do things differently, but if they try, the bully of the world comes knocking.
The Ukraine, which also wants sovereignty, only has a marginal voice in all of this.
The Ukraine
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That doesn’t explain why Russia is invading an adjacent sovereign state. Ukraine “wants sovereignty” because it already has it and doesn’t want it taken away.
“Has” is a bit strong at the start of the war (2014). The revolution of dignity built actual sovereignty by slowly ousting the puppeteers. At the start of the major conflict (2022), the Ukrainian identity was only a fraction of how strong it is now.
In the end, there is perhaps some conspirational truth to what he said. Heavy hints that Russia invaded exactly after Maidan (2014), “separatists super unhappy with less ties with Russia and revolted too”, in the same week, is the weakest shit I have ever seen. Happy for 25 years, suddenly revolted. And Russia brought a whole occupational army to help the poor peacefully seceding citizens. Doesnt take a genius to see it’s just an already planned out show of force, “You don’t suckle on great big Russia’s teet, so we can slowly eat you? Then I will take your lands”
It ain’t his tho?
This is like selling someone else’s car to a third party.
Yeah, but he wouldn’t be the rapist that he is if he understood no means no.
But the car repairs has been paid for by US
If by US you mean Europe then yes.
Without any guarantees for peace, like joining NATO, any peace agreement isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. Putin will demand such things won’t happen and Trump will immediately agree.
Indeed, Ukraine had an agreement for giving back nuclear weapons…
Doesn’t much matter, Zelensky has already said that’s a non-starter and their constitution forbids it anyway.
Got a translated source? That’d be a really interesting constitution
In rejecting Mr. Trump’s proposal, Mr. Zelensky invoked Ukraine’s Constitution, which states that the Ukrainian territory is indivisible and inviolable. “The answer to Ukraine’s territorial question is already in the Constitution of Ukraine,” Mr. Zelensky said. “No one will step back from this, nor will anyone be able to.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/09/world/europe/zelensky-trump-ukraine-russia.html
Constitution doesn’t matter much when your invader is stronger than you
Next Putin will claim Alaska used to be Russian, and should be handed back.
And trump would give it to him after some fake posturing.
Actually, Lenin invented the United States in the first place, so their entire country is historically part of Russia /s
I don’t seem to remember anyone other than Trump appointing Trump the lead deal negotiator for this, people would be losing their brains of Xi Jinping or Kier Starmer randomly started saying they were negotiating a ceasfire between Russia and Ukraine, Trump starts trying to do and it’s all “sure let’s give him a crack at it” regardless of the ridiculous outcomes of his meetings with either Putin or Zelinsky… I’ve seen toddlers with better negotiating skills than this demented fool
Trump is willing to sell out Ukraine and carve up its carcass as long as he gets a piece of the action.
Let’s also not forget that the only reason he is even trying to negotiate and put an end to the war is trying to get the nobel peace prize.
Piece of shit. The US really outdid themselves reelecting that asshole.
I think it might be more of an Epstein situation here.
Child raping fucktard
To hell with trump and putin, no glory in anything they do, abusing their own country
Oh so we negotiate with and reward terrorists now? Because they aren’t going to stop here any more than they stopped with Crimea.
History is full of example of rewards to terrorists like giving zionists who commited acts of terrors like king david hotel a state
To be fair, we always have. Despite it being said that we don’t, that’s always been bullshit. It’s said so terrorists think that they can’t be rewarded for their actions, but almost every time they try to negotiate we do, which is probably a good thing.
“negotiate”
