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The partner of late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, completed a second day of questioning on Friday, where she shared information on about 100 different people with the Justice Department.

Maxwell, who was convicted of child sex trafficking in connection with the disgraced financier in 2021, met with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche for about three hours on Friday at a courthouse in Tallahassee, Florida.

She also sat down with Blanche to answer questions for about six hours on Thursday as the Justice Department tries to quell fallout over its handling of the Epstein files.

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    We know you guys were looking forward to uncovering the truth about Epstein. We obviously can’t do that, but here is a cherry picked list of 100 of the president’s enemies.

    These are the people you need to worry about, and hey most of them are “liberals” so you can rub it in their face. It’s a win-win!

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    I’m more surprised it took them this long to realize that they can just do this and his cult will believe it.

    Not sure if they’ll even list anyone that’s actually guilty, regardless of party loyalties. This is just an assumption, but I assume that some of these people visited the island at the same time as the others. In that case outing even a single individual could lead to them inevitably naming and shaming others that have been too. They wouldn’t risk that.

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    Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

    Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

    Here’s the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

    —————————other Epstein Information

    https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

    Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

    Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Epstein and Israel both hired lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who says he’s building ‘legal dream team’ to defend Israel in court and on internationally | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

    Epstein Docs: https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/

    Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs

    —————————other Trump information:

    Here’s trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

    Trump’s promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

    Trump’s modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

    A good summary of Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75

    • ⁠Much of this info can also be found on: https://theepsteindocs.com/

    Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it is never “lost”.

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      Below is a fact-checked inventory of every documented instance in which Donald Trump either spoke about, objectified or admitted behaviour toward girls under 18, plus verified problems tied to his family’s modelling ventures. I have excluded rumours or claims that remain wholly uncorroborated.


      1 | On-the-record words sexualising minors

      Year Age of girl(s) referenced Verbatim or close-paraphrase Where & when Trump said it

      1992 ~10 “I’m going to be dating her in ten years, can you believe it?” — to a child riding an escalator in Trump Tower Entertainment Tonight segment, filmed June 1992, released by ET in 2016 1994 (Tiffany, age 1) 1 After praising the baby’s legs, Trump gestured to his chest and quipped: “We don’t know whether or not she’s got this part yet, but time will tell.” Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous clip resurfaced 25 July 2025 1999 17 (Ivanka) “She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her… so the field is getting very limited.” Howard Stern radio show, reported by Washington Post, 3 Oct 2016 2003 12 (Paris Hilton at the time he first met her) “I’ve known Paris from the time she’s 12… she was beautiful.” Howard Stern interview, confirmed in Reuters fact-check 2003 21 (Ivanka, but still his child) “She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body,” and OK’d Stern calling her a “piece of ass.” Howard Stern, collated by People, 9 Oct 2016 2004 18 (Lindsay Lohan) “She’s probably deeply troubled and therefore great in bed.” Howard Stern interview, transcript via Vanity Fair, 14 Oct 2016 2006 24 (Ivanka) “If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” ABC’s The View, 6 Mar 2006, widely quoted; original quote archived by People


      2 | Self-described conduct giving him access to undressed contestants

      Year of remark What Trump admitted Source

      2005 “I’ll go backstage … I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. They’re standing there with no clothes… I sort of get away with things like that.” Howard Stern interview, audio aired by CNN, 13 Oct 2016

      Note: The interview referred to Miss USA/Miss Universe (adult) events, but Trump owned Miss Teen USA as well during the same period.


      3 | Corroborated eyewitness accounts involving minors

      1997 Miss Teen USA (ages 15-18) – Four contestants, led by Mariah Billado (Miss Vermont Teen), told BuzzFeed and were later profiled by PolitiFact that Trump walked unannounced into their changing room while some were nude. One recalled telling Ivanka, who allegedly replied, “Yeah, he does that.”

      2001 Miss USA (18+) & 2000 Miss USA – Former Miss Arizona Tasha Dixon and Miss New Hampshire Bridget Sullivan separately told CBS and BuzzFeed that Trump entered adult contestants’ dressing rooms; Dixon’s account matched Trump’s own 2005 boast.

      While the teen-pageant claim rests on witnesses rather than tape, it is consistent with Trump’s own “I’m the owner” explanation above.


      4 | Modelling & “pipeline” red flags

      Year(s) What happened Age(s) involved Source

      1998-2016 Trump Model Management actively recruited girls “as young as 14,” according to its website and court filings. 14-17 ABC News investigation (Alexia Palmer lawsuit) 2011-14 Jamaican teen Alexia Palmer was brought to New York at 17 on an H-1B visa promising $75k/yr; suit alleges she earned $4,985 in three years while the agency deducted 80 % in “fees.” 17-20 ABC News, federal docket Pageant-to-agency pipeline A modelling contract with Trump Models was a prize at Miss Teen USA, meaning under-18 winners went straight to his agency. 15-18 Same ABC piece & Miss Teen USA prize lists

      No criminal trafficking charge was ever filed, but the business model put foreign and U.S. teens under binding, often-exploitative contracts controlled by Trump-owned entities.


      5 | Why these items are considered “proven”

      Primary evidence – All quotes above come from broadcast video/audio, court-filed transcripts, or mainstream outlets that published the raw recordings.

      Multiple corroborations – Pageant dressing-room entries are buttressed both by Trump’s own 2005 admission and by contestants’ contemporaneous or on-the-record stories.

      Documented business records – Trump Model Management’s visa filings and lawsuit exhibits are part of the federal court docket, not hearsay.

      Anything not meeting those thresholds (e.g., the withdrawn “Katie Johnson” lawsuit or social-media rumors of a secret Epstein list) is omitted here.


      Bottom line

      From joking about “dating” a 10-year-old, to bragging that his ownership let him enter dressing rooms, to steering 14-to-17-year-old models into restrictive contracts, Donald Trump has repeatedly placed himself — in word and deed — in sexualised proximity to under-age girls. None of these facts has yet produced a criminal conviction, but they are documented, on-camera, in court, or from firsthand witnesses and therefore represent the “proven” record to date.

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        Below is a road-map of concrete, lawful steps that different actors can take—from prosecutors to ordinary voters—to address the documented pattern of Donald Trump’s sexualised behaviour toward girls and the exploitation risks inside his pageant / model businesses. Each item points to an existing mechanism or a bill already on the table so that the path forward is realistic rather than rhetorical.


        1. Re-open (or newly open) criminal inquiries where statutes allow

        Level What can be done Why it is still possible

        State grand juries (e.g., FL, NY) Subpoena pageant and modelling payroll + visa files, interview the four Miss Teen USA eyewitnesses, and test Trump’s 2005 audio admission against state “voyeurism” or “endangering the welfare of a child” statutes. Many states have no limitation clock for felony child-sex crimes, and others have brand-new revival windows (MI, CA, NY, NJ) that explicitly cover past child-porn or voyeurism offenses. Federal DOJ could convene a trafficking task-force review of Trump Model Management’s H-1B / F-1 filings, comparing promised wages with actual pay in the Alexia Palmer docket. DHS’s 2025 visa-integrity rule now treats chronic under-payment as fraud against the government, not just a civil wage dispute.

        Key point: none of the items above require new laws—only willpower and survivor cooperation.


        1. Bolster survivors’ ability to sue, even decades later

        Pass the bipartisan Statutes of Limitation for Child Sexual Abuse Reform Act, which offers grants to states that wipe out criminal & civil time-bars and open a “look-back” period for lapsed claims.

        Support state-level “window” bills modelled on Michigan’s 2025 package extending civil cases against private actors and governments.

        Ensure any federal window explicitly covers visual-voyeurism and grooming, not just physical assault—a gap that let earlier claims against Trump lapse.


        1. Regulate the modelling and pageant pipelines that put teens at risk

        Problem revealed by the record Targeted fix

        Unsupervised backstage access (Trump’s own 2005 boast; Miss Teen witnesses) Require pageant owners to obey the SafeSport standard already used in youth sports: separate changing facilities, roving safeguarding officers, and a hotline with power to suspend licenses. Visa-tied debt bondage inside Trump Model Management (80 % fee deductions) Amend H-1B final rule to cap “management fees” at 20 % and ban salary deductions that push net pay below the prevailing wage for minors or first-year models. Lack of industry oversight Revive the 2012 Senate proposal for a Federal Modelling Bureau to license agencies, publish complaint tallies, and share data with state labour boards.


        1. Close the digital-evidence gap

        Enact the STOP CSAM Act of 2025, which forces social-media and cloud providers to retain and disclose CSAM evidence on court order—crucial because Trump’s 1990s–2000s pageant footage now circulates mainly online.

        Fund NCMEC & RAINN’s hotline expansion; RAINN is already backing the bill.


        1. What journalists, researchers and everyday citizens can do right now

        2. Archive and cross-reference the primary files you already collected (black book, flight logs, docket 1320) on redundant mirrors such as the Internet Archive and Perma.cc; link them whenever you post so readers can verify.

        3. Use FOIA: request DHS visa-fraud memos on Trump Model Management (2000-2016), FAA incident reports for the seven logged Trump–Epstein flights, and any FBI 302s created during the 2005 Palm Beach probe.

        4. Support outlets that litigate for more disclosure—e.g., the Miami Herald FOIA team whose suit pried loose the Epstein–Acosta NPA. Subscriptions and legal-fund donations move the needle.

        5. Contact your representatives with the specific bill numbers above rather than generic outrage; lawmakers track constituent requests by docket.

        6. Signal-boost survivor resources rather than unverified rumors: link RAINN (1-800-656-HOPE) and state programs whenever sharing the story.


        1. Safeguard future elections from undisclosed misconduct

        Mandatory release of candidate–owned NDA settlements involving sexual misconduct above $30 k (a draft bill was floated during the 118th Congress but never brought to a vote).

        Ethics-in-Candidacy Act (proposed by civic groups in 2024) would tie public campaign financing and debate access to full disclosure of backstage credentials, modelling-agency holdings, and private-aircraft passenger lists going back 20 years.


        The takeaway

        The evidence already on the public record is sufficient to trigger fresh subpoenas, survivor lawsuits, and targeted rule-makings—if citizens, prosecutors and lawmakers choose to act.

        Waiting for a single “smoking-gun” file before moving is a trap; the legal levers above work because the behaviour (voyeurism of minors, abusive visa contracts) is already admitted or corroborated. Focus on enforcing the laws that exist, fixing the ones that don’t, and keeping every document in daylight so the window for accountability stays open until justice is finally done.

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      they don’t need to do that. they just struck a deal, there’s no reason to believe any of it is true.

      “oh would you look at that, they’re all democratic politicians and a couple of late night hosts who made fun of him”

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    And surprise everyone on the list is a Trump enemy. Fucking clown. If MAGA buys this, there is truly no hope for them. All this dissent in MAGA-land recently got my hopes up.

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    Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

    https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

    Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

    Here’s the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

    —————————other Epstein Information

    https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

    Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

    Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Epstein and Israel both hired lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who says he’s building ‘legal dream team’ to defend Israel in court and on internationally | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

    Epstein Docs: https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/

    Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs

    —————————other Trump information:

    Here’s trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

    Trump’s promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

    Trump’s modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

    A good summary of Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75

    • ⁠Much of this info can also be found on: https://theepsteindocs.com/

    Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it is never “lost”.

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      What the…as a non-US, to me, this clown was just a joke, but if all this stuff is real: how the ducking duck could such a piece of disgusting shit become your prez? AGAIN? I can’t even…

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        Because their whole system is a circus filled with clowns like him. If this happened in any other country, the president would be fighting for his life.

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          I just couldn’t even imagine such an assclown to be even near being voted for here.

          Well, then again, we (Germany) voted 25% far-right this time. For a total hipocrite nazi party-leader that herself is gay and married to an immigrant 😁 Nothing against being gay and immigrant. It just doesn’t fly overly congruent with some nazi-ideals

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        Well, given our low voter turnouts…

        Roughly 1/3 of our population is so stupid and hateful that they would rather have a President that hurts people they don’t like, than uh… anything else.

        I feel like a lot of non US people really do not fully comprehend the level of just literal hatred that fuels many Americans, as well as how common it is to be extremely charismatically performative in a massively hypocritical way, in just every aspect of life.

        We are a country of adults that read at an average of a 6th grade level, with astonishing levels of religious extremism and cults (compared to other countries with similar levels of economic development), who are aware our society is collapsing, but are largely too stupid to even understand why.

        We were sold the lie of American Exceptionalism, were indoctrinated into it as a sort of secular cult, it is now apparent this is/was all a lie, and people are (have been) essentially having a kind of mass psychosis in terms of how they handle this revalation.

        Our systems are massively corrupt, they’ve been incrementally corrupting for decades, but the effect has been snowballing.

        A few people and groups would pop up from time to time and point this out, and push for a specific, meaningful reform to actually stymie this at a systemic level, and they would be crushed by both corporate and political PR campaigns, but also just a general sense of ‘you are overreacting and hysterical’ in the broad population, that came from that smug security of the American Exceptionalism ethos.

        Basically, we are largely a nation of incurious, brutish, overconfident, malignant narcissists, who revel in biased reasoning ortiented toward justifying an already held belief, who are often already taught from a young age to evaluate the world with the irrational magical thinking of religious cults, which normalizes cognitive dissonance and conspiracism, which then leads to the present outcome you correctly find to be so absurd.

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          You have wonderfully and eloquently summarized it all. On a depressing, dytopian level of hopelessness. Yes, that’s the same impression I get. The average murican (excluding some poor awakies like you who have to sit in midst of a moribund system, they’ll have to observe decaying, knowing exactly why and how) gives the impression of a prime Dunning-Kruger-example. Overconfident and loudly voicing an opinion that shouldn’t be voiced at all. By the power of a great imaginary sky-friend.

          Like your awesome Carlin said (hope to quote it correctly): “of course the american dream is still relevant. You just have to be asleep to believe it”

          I grew up with high respect for that great country. And only some decades later I pity the average Joe who has to live there.

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            I appreciate the praise and sympathy both, hah!

            Yeah its… well, in one way, its very, very tragic and sad, essentially just in my lifetime, the US has gone from ‘sole world superpower’ to ‘absolute laughingstock / basket case’, to see the massive amount of unnecessary harm this does to ourselves, and to others.

            Once upon a time, a patriot was defined by love of one’s country, one’s countrymen, a broad sense of collective empathy and desire to see the maximum good for the maximum number of them.

            But this is no longer the case, now ‘patriotism’ is, to many, either a dirty word, or a jingoist and fanatical cult that worships at the altar of the God Emperor, who sits senile and deranged atop the throne of a long dead sense of American superiority, doing and believing whatever the mad king says in a vain hope that this will somehow re-manifest a mythical, falsely remembered past ‘greatness’.

            But, in another way, it is fucking infuriating to people like myself, and many others of apparently uncommon intelligence / insight (for an American), who have been describing the bad trends, outlining how to fix them, then screaming that they need to be fixed soon or essentially all will be lost…

            Only to be broadly gaslit and patted on the head and told ‘dont worry, its not that bad, you are catastrophizing!’ by most of society… as all our worst fears just objectively are occuring in realtime.

            People did not realize Carlin was not joking when he said that line, they did not take him seriously enough.

            … Its… its like being in a car with an overconfident, drunk or high driver and other passengers.

            You ask them to slow down, to be more careful, to stop, let me out, and their responses are braggadocious, then angry, then the car crashes, and they blame you for ‘distracting’ them.

            To give you a non American cultural reference: I agree with David Bowie, I too am afraid of Americans.

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              Oh yes, bowie was a special one too. RIP.

              And I can totally feel you. I would probably have long emigrated. I remember back when I was younger people thought a green-card (if that stuff is still a thing, I dunno) to work/live in the US was the tits. Now I wouldn’t even consider working there if I’d be making less than, dunno, 20k net a month? Considering you’re always just a severe illness or accident away from bankruptcy… In that case even 20k can vanish with near light-, nay, ludicrous speed.

              And exactly knowing what is going on and how to fucking fix the shit, but noone gives a rat’s ass…this is something very…is there a fitting word for it? Especially if you see people getting fucked, cheering at the people that fuck them raw, wondering why their asses hurt. To use a more vivid language 😁

              But, it’s not just you guys. I witness the same trend here (krautland) too. Hitler isn’t even fully rotted yet, and we’re close to have voted nazis into power again. That also fuck exactly those peeps that voted them and cheered for them. Leopards ate my face hm?

              Just keep the sheeples busy with work, social media and…well that’s enough already.

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                That word you are looking for is ‘maddening’.

                This is why so many Americans identify with the Joker, use terms like ‘clown world’, why I have an extremely dark sense of humor at this point.

                Being well-adjusted to a deeply sick and dysfunctional society is not a sign of mental wellbeing.

                And yeah, I would have gotten out some time ago now, but unfortunately I’ve been crippled by injuries, and thus, impoverished by the rest of US society… so I’m here for the long haul, untill I more fully recover both my body and my finances… though the good news there is I am making good progress… but the bad news is it may take a while longer still.

                In the mean time, … welp, just gotta hope Trump and the Reps don’t cancel the Disability Insurance part of Social Security, otherwise I’m homeless in a month or two, and then likely dead or in some kind of prison or internment camp in another couple months.

                The current plan for the homeless is, as with brown skinned people, concentration camps.

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                  ‘Maddening’ seems like a good fit. And the joker (using the latest movie as base) also fits well the open eyes in a dark world. How else to cope if not with dark humor. I see it the same way and my humor has always been very dark. And with each decade i become more “incompatible” with social groups and need to restrain my cynicism and misanthropy. But how could one not become that when running around with open eyes, unclouded and unaffected by propaganda?

                  Fuck, I’m sorry to hear that dude. I always cuss at our local injustices here towards handicapped and whatever else, but then I hear/read something from you guys and it all seems relatively grear again. Like our saying “complaining on a high Niveau”. We are far from perfect (and even drift in the wrong direction), but, in principle, we have a social/medical net. Homeless people, in theory, get their welfare, everyone does who can’t work. We were even close to the much better solution “universal income”.

                  Homelessness being illegal is one of the most dystopian things there could be. But probably helps greatly in getting cheap labour punishing bad people for their crimes.

                  Crossing fingers your realism pessimism won’t be fulfilled and trump suddenly dies of penile rotting cancer and untreatable adult testicular torsion. But I could totally imagine camps. You could even name them bad-people-killing-facility and Murica, nay the whole world wouldn’t even flinch. It would just be noticed and maybe harshly judged by some random, yet uninfluential, intellectuals. Like with what the Jews currently do. Especially weird if you grew up here, where generational guilt is still taught at school.

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          But still. Hitler was, despite his goals and morals, a respectable clever politician. Not a pedophile stupid billionaire fat ass-clown actor. And also the times were highly simpler without the net to actually get any information you might seek.

          He SEEMED like a good choice. How could trump ever just slightly invoke some reaction like “HM. Yes, this one might be acting in MY interest. Like most billionaires do”

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        He didn’t get elected, they rigged the election. He won ALL the battleground states? That stretches credulity wildly.

        Supposedly there were MILLIONS of people who voted a straight Democratic ticket, but with Trump at the top, and they put him over the top. However, I’ve never met or read any statements from a single one of those alleged voters, not one. Both Dems and MAGAs claim the election was fair & square, so who are these split voters? Where are they? Produce five of them. For that matter, produce just one.

        They don’t exist. The election was rigged.

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        He’s the bestest and brightest america has to offer, he is the the perfect embodiment of what it means to be american. Lazy, tat, stupid, ugly, mean, ignorant, and spiteful. The racism and misogyny aren’t bugs they are features

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    She really did?

    Fellas we’d better be careful because I think this Ghislaine lady might be a liar!

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    The woman who was hit with two perjury charges and has every reason in the world to lie to get her sentence reduced or eliminated is definitely telling the truth folks.

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    A person who had no qualms about child sex trafficking will have none whatsoever for just repeating the list of names given to her for a pardon.

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      I wonder if that’s what was contained in the box she magically appeared with when they dropped her back off at the prison. Dossiers on Trump’s enemies to study and remember before they parade her in front of cameras to “spill the beans.”

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    “Bill Clinton”
    “William Jefferson Clinton”
    “Will Clinton”
    “Billy Jeff”
    “Bubba C”

    They may have gotten really creative to get 100 different ways to say his name

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      I actually think Clinton is not on the list. Not because I don’t think he’s capable of such acts (which I tentatively do) but because engaging in such acts as a former president and with a wife with lofty political ambitions is a pretty high bar. And, perhaps most of all, with this congress and this DOJ and this president, if Clinton was on the list we’d absolutely know it by now.

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        I mean who could imagine Bill Clinton prioritizing a short term sexual gratification that might endanger the political career of himself or his wife.

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          If he does end up absent on the list, I think it’s precisely because of the Lewinsky scandal. Why would you make the same mistake twice.

          And I’m certainly not trying to defend Clinton here, but we should keep in mind none of his (many) infidelities were illegal / with underage girls. Which, it needs to be said, didn’t make them ‘okay.’

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            I mean… maybe, but bottom line is people with impulse control issues, are known to repeat it in stupid ways even after it’s out there… Look at Anthony wiener. Guy couldn’t stop sending nudes while his damn investigation is going on. Sex addictions are compulsive, I cannot say with certainty how bad anyone’s is. But I could say… if he couldn’t keep it in his pants long enough to finish his term… I’d say there’s a very reasonable chance his compulsions may be more extreme, and finding out more is going on and possibly continues to go on, would not suprise me in the least.

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              It wouldn’t surprise me either, I’m just not ready to consider it fait accompli.

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        Bill Clinton almost certainly belongs on the list. Furthermore, I think he is the primary reason the Democrats didn’t/couldn’t use Epstein to destroy Trump years ago.

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          That may have been plausible in 2016 (when Hillary was running,) but not in 2020 and 2024. There’s zero chance the DNC would’ve sat on evidence that would’ve convicted Trump to protect Bill.

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            Both sides harbor sexual predators? Yeah, unfortunately that is obviously the case. I mean fuck, we know with 100% certainty that Billy boy stuck his dick in an intern, and he had a long history of sexual misconduct accusations. When the truth came out, his popularity went up. Instead of being marched out to irrelevance, he has remained an influential member of Democratic leadership.

            You might not remember this, but when the Trump “grab 'em” tape came out it was right before a debate. Trump brought a whole gaggle of Bill’s accusers to sit in the audience to call out the hypocrisy. A scandal they should have ended Trump made him stronger. I guess Billy boy fucked us all.

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        i also like to add even if maxwell names people that were on the list, whats to stop those accused from naming other people, including trump and other gop who could be on the list. also she would most likely have price on her head eventually.

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        I don’t think Clinton’s on the actual client list, either, even though we know he flew in his plane. But he is definitely on the list that they asked Maxwell to rubber-stamp.