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      Colonialism and genocide in Italy in the 70s? 🤣

      Enjoy that beer you’re drinking!

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        Colonialism and genocide in Italy in the 70s?

        Sounds like you have been living under a rock. Italy had already been a member of NATO by 1970, which already makes them complicit in things like the Lebensraum genocide in Palestine.

        You claim that you are from Europe, but you are evidently very ignorant of its history.

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            NATO is a defensive alliance

            This is hilarious.
            It has, apparently, been very ‘defensively’ committing the genocide in Palestine, and it so very ‘defensively’ invaded Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, etc. /s

            Only people with no knowledge of history and no knowledge of what has been happening this century think that it’s a defensive alliance.

            Also, what was/is it a defensive alliance of and from? Are you going to argue that it hasn’t been an alliance defending colonial metropoles and settler-colonies from justice?

            Read the basics at least

            You should follow your own advice and learn about what it has been doing.

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              NATO always had a UN mandate to intervene, except for the war in Yugoslavia since Russia vetoed it. NATO conducts peacekeeping missions, often positioning in between two factions.

              If you want to argue that NATO ignores 9 out of 10 conflicts and intervenes only where it’s convenient for the West, that’s a fair point, but accusations of genocide are simply ridiculous.

              Just to name an example of your BS, Israel attacked the UNIFIL forces because they held their defensive position in Lebanon.

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                NATO always had a UN mandate to intervene

                ‘We gave ourselves permission to commit genocides and do invasions, so all of this is okay, akshully’.

                It has always been a force for colonialism. NATO has killed millions in its invasions, including the recent ones into Iran, Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

                If you want to argue that NATO ignores 9 out of 10 conflicts and intervenes only where it’s convenient for the West, that’s a fair point

                No. Reread what I have said. My issue is not that NATO does not ‘intervene’ where it should. My issue is that NATO is fundamentally a colonial empire. It is a perpetrator of at least one genocide that is currently ongoing, and it is the most prolific invader in the world.

                but accusations of genocide are simply ridiculous

                Literally Palestine.

                Just to name an example of your BS, Israel attacked the UNIFIL forces because they held their defensive position in Lebanon

                In what way does that contradict any of what I have said? Pissrael is de facto a part of NATO (arguing that Pissrael could have ever been as successful in its Lebensraum project without NATO is ridiculous), so that’s literally an example of yet another invasion by NATO.

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                  NATO is not even present in Palestine.

                  Israel collaborates with NATO like several other Mediterranean non-NATO countries do. Are NATO members also responsible for the violations of human rights in Egypt? What about those in Tunisia?

                  You are clearly full of ideology and less of facts.

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                    NATO is not even present in Palestine

                    Both Pissraeli and USian troops have been on the ground there recently.
                    NATO has also done stuff like the bombing of Yemen and Iran recently, as well as the completion of the invasion of Syria just within the last 12 months.

                    Israel collaborates with NATO

                    Pissrael is de facto a part of NATO.

                    Are NATO members also responsible for the violations of human rights in Egypt? What about those in Tunisia?

                    Yes. Yes.

                    You are clearly full of ideology and less of facts.

                    You are literally claiming that the invasions of Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan by NATO did not happen.