Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]

I’m literally returning your arguments as you’ve made them to me

You aren’t, as asking me superficially similar questions doesn’t actually produce the same arguments. My questions can only serve as arguments due to you making relevant accusations and denials.
That and the fact that you literally tried to equate making grammar mistakes with your empire carrying out a literal genocide.

It’s pretty obvious that you can’t name even 5 non-nazi Dems, can’t point to any good effects gained through voting in the US, can’t point to any mistakes that I have made, and you are overwhelmingly likely in favour of the Lebensraum against the Palestinian people.

Your an Uber white supremacist

Ah yes, being opposed to literal European colonialism and genocides by European settler-colonists of non-white people means that one is an ‘Uber white supremacist’. /s

5th grader

Given that I have a much greater grasp on, among other things, history of your empire, that would just mean that you are less well-educated than a 5th grader.

who doesn’t even know how to back their claims

I have already pointed to particular cases of your empire invading and committing genocides, I have pointed out that voting has been a useless endeavour, that you can’t even name 5 non-nazi Dems (despite almost none of the Dems being nazis, according to you). I keep backing my claims up with evidence, while you keep engaging in slinging baseless accusations.

Again, literally just returning your serve

Yeah, it is evident that you can’t answer the relevant questions without having to explicitly admit to your white supremacist views.

Nah, I’m the one debating a white supremacist 6th grader who doesn’t even know how to back their claims.

You have several grammar and spelling mistakes in your post

I avoided pointing out your grammar mistakes (like when you couldn’t figure out the difference between ‘All nazis are Republicans’ instead of ‘All Republicans are nazis’) as a courtesy. But sure, what grammar/spelling mistakes do you think I have made?

Since part of you is imperfect, all of you is imperfect and therefore your argument that you yourself are “good” is irrelevant

Hahaha.
Are you seriously equating me supposedly making grammar mistakes with your empire intentionally engaging in invasions, genocides, torture, colonialism, etc. against most of the world?

Can you name at least five good things you’ve done? Still waiting.

Firstly, if almost none of the Dems are nazis, you should have no trouble mentioning five of them.
Secondly, you don’t get to ask a question and then immediately go ‘still waiting’. This question is obviously just a deflection by you.
Thirdly, I can say that, at least, I have not been engaging in white supremacy and genocide apologia, which is more than can be said about you.

Have you not argued that tomatoes are vegetables?

No, and especially not in this conversation.

Considering that you are not giving negatory responses to the relevant questions, we can conclude that you did argue so, and that I did not mischaracterise you.

If you can think of any, and I mean ANY mischaracterizations I’ve made about anything you’ve said I’m absolutely eager to hear them.

I have not brought up you mischaracterising what I have said. You did claim that I mischaracterise you. Considering that you can’t point to any such mischaracterisations, we can conclude that that was a lie.

Firstly, still waiting for you to name any of the non-nazi Dems. Do you have at least five names?

Secondly, if you think that I mischaracterised your arguments, can you point to any such mischaracterisations?
Have you not argued that NATO - the world’s most prolific aggressor and the world’s premier white supremacist polity - is somehow good?
Have you not argued that voting is somehow important in the US despite having produced no results to speak of throughout its history?
Have you not implied that the Lebensraum in Palestine should not be stopped and that the homes and land should not be given back to their rightful owners?

Do the world a favor and stop supporting Nazis

Well, I’m not the one who is supporting nazis. You, on the other hand, have been insistent that half of your governing nazis are not nazis.

I can’t believe you think that Jews and immigrants are subhumans

Notably, I never said anything against either of those groups (whom both Dems and Reps have been acting against, with both of Obama’s terms being the most ICE-happy time period), but it’s pretty evident from your reaction that you think that being against a Lebensraum-style genocide must mean that I’m opposed to some ethnic group.

You are in favour of displacing and killing Palestinians, aren’t you?

You’re a white supremacist, plain and simple

This is silly and very backwards.
You have literally been arguing about how the blue brand of white supremacists in your government is awesome, and how NATO - the organisation dedicated to white supremacist colonialism - is great.

EDIT: Also, what are the blue-brand white supremacists that are non-nazis that you can name?

Do the world a favour, and stop defending nazis at the helm of your empire, and stop claiming that your invasions and genocides are ‘protecting’ anybody.

Going to note that you are yet to dispute any of what I have been saying with facts. You have only been throwing baseless accusations at me.

I claim you don’t know the difference between individual countries and NATO

I do. Not sure how the fact that those are individual countries/states contradicts the facts that they engage in collaborative colonialist efforts and that they are also subservient to the US - the de facto head of NATO.

and you are so full of yourself that you can’t even search where NATO actually operated and where didn’t.

I have literally pointed out a bunch of places where NATO has operated.

I stop here

You should, in fact, stop supporting and denying colonialism.

Voting correctly is important

Has voting ever produced any sort of serious effect in the US?

Voting Republican caused Ukraine to lose its funding

Meaning that the state of Ukraine will have less of a reason and less of an ability to avoid peace negotiations to stop the bloodshed. This is good.

but don’t forget it also protects billions of people

It literally does the opposite. It’s a colonial empire that is conducting a genocide right now and that has been invading everywhere in the world to keep billions of people in a colonial yoke. It only defends colonial metropoles and settler-colonies from justice.
Furthermore, at most, it ‘protects’ about a billion of people, and not ‘billions’.

All Nazis are Republicans. Few to none are Democrats

They are almost all nazis. Even if one cares about electoralism, almost all Dems who could voted against reduction of military support for Pissrael.
It’s not really arguable that at least almost all Dems are in favour of genocides and invasions - like the ones into Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan.

Basically none of your arguments are rooted in truth, even slightly

Except for all of them.
Notably, you couldn’t even provide examples of non-nazi Dems, and lied about NATO protecting billions of people and keep lying about voting being important despite having nothing to show for it.

NATO is not even present in Palestine

Both Pissraeli and USian troops have been on the ground there recently.
NATO has also done stuff like the bombing of Yemen and Iran recently, as well as the completion of the invasion of Syria just within the last 12 months.

Israel collaborates with NATO

Pissrael is de facto a part of NATO.

Are NATO members also responsible for the violations of human rights in Egypt? What about those in Tunisia?

Yes. Yes.

You are clearly full of ideology and less of facts.

You are literally claiming that the invasions of Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, and Afghanistan by NATO did not happen.

Rather, I’m arguing against “enlightened centrism”

Your instance has been very supportive of ‘enlightened centrism’ when it comes to colonialism vs anti-colonialism. Let’s hope that you are, in fact, opposed to that.

However, the opposition to both of the parties is not a case of ‘enlightened centrism’. They are literally both right-wing genocidal factions of rulers of NATO.

Both sides are not the same at all

In the case of USian ruling factions, the difference is just PR. And, maybe, competence in conducting genocides, invasions, and other colonialist activities.

there is one party clearly better than the other

Considering that the current administration has seemingly been making decisions that have been harmful to NATO’s ability to invade the rest of the world in the long term, it seems that the party that currently holds more power is the better one.

But if everyone voted Democrat our problems would be greatly improved

How?

If there were two parties, one to double the slaves, and another to keep the number of slaves the same, I would vote for the second party

Both of the parties are for doubling the slaves and for conducting genocides. The currently dominant one seems to be less competent when it comes to achieving those goals.

But they can’t because half the country is Nazis

Much more than that - almost all USians were in favour of invading Iraq, and I find it likely that not much has changed.
Either way, both of those parties are at least almost completely nazi.

It’s a dirty game but it’s one worth playing

Why? Electoralist efforts have evidently not achieved much throughout their existence. It’s time to accept reality.

NATO always had a UN mandate to intervene

‘We gave ourselves permission to commit genocides and do invasions, so all of this is okay, akshully’.

It has always been a force for colonialism. NATO has killed millions in its invasions, including the recent ones into Iran, Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

If you want to argue that NATO ignores 9 out of 10 conflicts and intervenes only where it’s convenient for the West, that’s a fair point

No. Reread what I have said. My issue is not that NATO does not ‘intervene’ where it should. My issue is that NATO is fundamentally a colonial empire. It is a perpetrator of at least one genocide that is currently ongoing, and it is the most prolific invader in the world.

but accusations of genocide are simply ridiculous

Literally Palestine.

Just to name an example of your BS, Israel attacked the UNIFIL forces because they held their defensive position in Lebanon

In what way does that contradict any of what I have said? Pissrael is de facto a part of NATO (arguing that Pissrael could have ever been as successful in its Lebensraum project without NATO is ridiculous), so that’s literally an example of yet another invasion by NATO.

NATO is a defensive alliance

This is hilarious.
It has, apparently, been very ‘defensively’ committing the genocide in Palestine, and it so very ‘defensively’ invaded Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, etc. /s

Only people with no knowledge of history and no knowledge of what has been happening this century think that it’s a defensive alliance.

Also, what was/is it a defensive alliance of and from? Are you going to argue that it hasn’t been an alliance defending colonial metropoles and settler-colonies from justice?

Read the basics at least

You should follow your own advice and learn about what it has been doing.

Colonialism and genocide in Italy in the 70s?

Sounds like you have been living under a rock. Italy had already been a member of NATO by 1970, which already makes them complicit in things like the Lebensraum genocide in Palestine.

You claim that you are from Europe, but you are evidently very ignorant of its history.

So, they killed a leader of a state involved in colonialism and genocides, as opposed to actually conducting a terror attack? Sounds like you’ve got nothing.

Well, I have more expertise in the topic than you do.

Which terror attacks did the pro-Soviet groups conduct?

This is hilarious.

I know this because I have not been living under a rock, and have actually studied some history of the past couple of centuries, and not because I am a worshipper of any of your overlords.

EDIT: How would that even make sense, considering that the US does not try to claim that the rest of NATO are its obedient subjects? Did you not think your response through before you posted it?

Democrats seek to regulate said capital

No, they aren’t.

Serving capital does not mean we’re not a Democracy

If you think that you live under a democracy, i.e. that your government’s decisions reflect your wishes, then you should be held accountable for the genocides and invasions that your state keeps committing.

Attempting a coup of the government and disinformation does, however.

The US suffering a coup would at worst not make anything worse, including in terms of ‘democracy’.

This is some campist nonsense.