That’s an understatement.

no, but “westerner” is clearly a racial epithet.

Oh, wait. I forgot racism is only valid against non-whites. /s

I’m definitely not against giving more money in these programs, or widen their scope. I do think we have a moral obligation to help, in general. If you are better off, that is.

But where do reparations stop? There’s hardly a place on this planet who wasn’t taken advantage of, or hasn’t taken advantage of another.

I am keen on social programs. Social welfare programs, which in fact I consider fundamental in a developed society.

I just don’t see reparations as a good social program.

All the downvotes you got were telling you much of a child you are. This latest attitude just goes to prove it.

Block away petulant kid

I’m against reparations because, as you said, it would be unfair on both sides.

The people that would be taxed (the majority) probably never benefitted from it, at least not directly. I can give you an example. On my father’s side we made a family tree reaching all the way to the 17th century, and there were no rich landowners or noblemen. It’s highly unlikely they owned slaves. Should my family pay for reparations?

Now, if you can accurately trace slave owning people and their descendants are still wealthy, then by all means…

What I’m saying is it can’t be a blanket measure.

Also, if we europeans must pay, then the arabs better pay up as well.

And then you have the question of who receives the money. Africa is rife with corruption. I wouldn’t want the money to go to some corrupt government official. But how would you trace the exact people or families who should receive the money? What if the family who was enslaved mixed with the family/tribe/kingdom of the slavers? Then what?

I’m absolutely for helping Africa, but it just can’t be this fantasy notion of reparations because it’s not feasible.

Well, sure. But a lot of developed nations already have a lot of programs aimed at doing that.

Also, as someone has said somewhere in this discussion, who exactly would receive reparations? It’s not exactly an easy thing to ascertain.

That’s an entirely different point. But they were already slavers before the europeans increased demand.

And which part of what I said is false?

What is strange is how you wanted to try to pass the narrative that the europeans were the first to do chattel slavery, when they absolutely weren’t, and also were the ones to not only outlaw it, but enforce the outlaw.

But keep trying to change history

You’re right. The trans-saharan slaves only had to walk from Africa to the middle east.

So much better.

That’s not racist at all

How convenient you chose to ignore the exact paragraph from that link that touched very lightly on what I said:

“In stark contrast, the trans-Saharan slave trade introduced chattel slavery where enslaved individuals were the property of their enslavers with no rights and their status was inherited by their offspring. This system stripped individuals of any agency and autonomy which reduced them to mere commodities.”

Arabs enslaved millions for a much longer period of time (all the way up to the late 20th century), raped the women, neutered the men, literally denying milions of a future generation from existing.

But I don’t see anyone asking them for compensations.

Next you’re gonna argue slavery only started in Africa when the first europeans started doing it, completely ignoring the centuries of arab slave trade before that, and centuries after europeans outlawed it, and which likely enslaved as many people.

The truth is, it was an awful thing with a lot of different parties involved for different reasons, throughout a very long period.

Here’s the biggest problem with reparations…

Most slaves were captured and then sold by other africans from competing kingdoms or tribes, to the europeans who would then take them across the atlantic.

Giving reparations to current africans would actually be like rewarding the original slavers.

Well, takes a moron to back a moron.

I wish there was a regime change in Iran.

But also in Israel and the US.