• seeigel@feddit.org
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    4 hours ago

    the bourgeoisie has been suppressed by Proletarian States, your hypothesis isn’t accurate

    But there are priviliged positions of power within those states. It’s just another form to organize power. Those positions will not be available to everybody.

    The idea of trying to synthesize a new ideology of left combined with right historically is Social Democracy,

    That can’t be all.

    As you write, it doesn’t work so something else should be tried.

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      Administration and management are necessities in complex and large-scale systems. This does imply power imbalance, but it does not imply the same character of class dynamics as in Capitalist states.

      Social Democracy doesn’t work, but Socialism does. We have seen this in practice quite effectively. There isn’t a mythical “perfect” system, all Socialist states have faced internal and external struggles, but we have seen remarkable resiliance and success from them in a quantitatively and qualitatively different level from Capitalist states.

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        Xi Jinping is the son of a high ranking politician. How is that not some form of class dynamics?

        Socialism does work

        USSR failed by having to import grain, while having black earth.

        But I am not opposing Socialism.

        My point is that right-wing people shouldn’t be ignored, especially not to the point of seeing them as enemies.

        The upper class is using the split to reign. Insisting on a solution that has room for improvement locks in the current situation.

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          Having a parent as a politician and then being elected is not a “class.” The alternative is to bar descendents from holding office, which is just trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist.

          The USSR had problems we can analyze, but through collective farming methods became food stable in a country that frequently had famines. Further, we can see food stability in countries like the PRC.

          We should not ignore right-wing proletarians. We should thoroughly correct their poor analysis and promote correct political lines. We should see fascists and the bourgeoisie, landlords, etc as enemies.

          The upper class plays up division to distract, this is correct, but Socialism remains the correct path. There isn’t a “perfect” Socialism, but that doesn’t mean advocating for Socialism locks in the current situation. To the contrary, Socialist revolution has already happened in many areas.

          I’d like to know what you mean by saying “Socialism has ro for improvement” as a general rule, and not as countries building Socialism iterating and working to resolve the problems that come with nation building in general.