• spacesatan@leminal.space
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    6 days ago

    Since like half of the comments are saying this was racist can anyone explain how?

    Genuinely what the fuck are you guys on about. I would understand if she was an ethnically Japanese leader/diplomat from Brazil or something but what. So obsessed with race that you forgot Japan is a country?

    It’s a stupid deflection but it’s not racist. The thought process is pretty obvious ‘Why didn’t you tell Japan before the attack’ -> ‘To keep the element of surprise’ uhh Japan + Surprise attack -> ‘Who know’s better than Japan about the value of stealth for a surprise attack, like pearl harbor’.

    He just doesn’t even have the capacity to coherently make the bad comparison. He also completely whiffed the cadence of the joke he was trying to make causing it to come out even weirder. It’s a brain in decline trying to fall in to patterns that it used to be able to somewhat execute on but is now just grasping at straws.

    *thing bad, so anything negative about thing must be correct and must not be questioned. I hate lemmy sometimes.

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      6 days ago

      Yeah people make fun of ww2 germany all the time and it’s totally fine

    • poopkins@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      You disagree with his comment being racist? Well since you’re not with us, you’re against us! There’s no middle ground, no nuance and no discourse in this community!

  • PhAzE@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    Remember that the US nuked Japan in response. So I guess he’d be ok if Iran nuked the US in response?

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      7 days ago

      They did not nuke Japan as a response to Pearl Harbor. It was a response to Japan stupidly ignoring the Potsdam Declaration when Germany had already been defeated.

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        7 days ago

        How would you know what FDRs motivation was?

        “This is for Pearl Harbor, I’ve been waiting a long time for this”.

        It could have been his response to Pearl Harbor, so your correction is REJECTED

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          6 days ago

          FDR was dead before the first nuclear test dentonation ever occured…

          So I can pretty conclusively say that dropping atomic bombs on Japan was not his response for pearl harbor.

        • Policeshootout@lemmy.ca
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          6 days ago

          I’m going to nitpick a bit but FDR was president and made the decision to go to war with Japan over pearl harbor. Truman made the final decision to drop the nuclear weapons on Japan.

          Roosevelt had likely a plan since the Manhattan project was under his presidency but Truman inherited that.

          I think it’s mostly accepted that the USA did not nuke Japan specifically because of pearl harbor but more to force a rapid surrender. Japan was being extremely stubborn and the estimated loss of US forces was very high to continue the war.

          I also think FDR and his admin were motivated to pursue the Manhattan project in the first place due to the intel that the Nazis were also researching nuclear weapons. Nothing to do with Japan.

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          I’d just like to take a moment to say how glad I am that most US presidents didn’t have social media to tell us their thoughts 24/7.

          It’s very possible that some of them were just as dumb as their 21st-century counterparts, but at least we don’t have the tweets to prove it.

          • vga@sopuli.xyz
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            6 days ago

            There have been plenty of dumb in the esteemed position of POTUS, but I would like to make the brave claim that Trump is on an entirely different level intellectually compared to most, if not all, previous presidents.

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    7 days ago

    Bro. The people coming to his defense is mind blowing. “That’s not what he meant!”, “He didn’t mean it in a racist way!” Shut the fuck up. He knows what he’s saying. He doesn’t care. The mental gymnastics his cult does for him is crazy. Just own up to it. He’s the racist pedophile Uncle who makes bad jokes at a family gathering that you wouldn’t leave your 10 year old with.

    It is what it is.

    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today
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      6 days ago

      I’m noticing more discourse on Lemmy. I’m not saying I want Lemmy to be a hive mind. But there’s clearly more and more comments seemingly just giving really “wrong side of history” takes.

    • Oodlenoodlenoo@lemmy.zip
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      7 days ago

      It’s the same shit they repeated on the campaign trail god I got tired of being told “it’s all hyperbole” from people I know didn’t even know what the word meant

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    7 days ago

    Time for Japan to dump their 1 trillion in US bonds. That’ll be worse than Pearl Harbor for them.