House Bill 752 criminalizes trans bathroom use in all private businesses with severe penalties. While passing it, Republicans argued trans people won't be harmed because they don't exist.
Their logic, such as it is, is that since trans people don’t exist, anybody in the “wrong” bathroom is there for nefarious reasons.
It’s false to anybody with a brain, because trans people do exist. In fact, even if you think gender dysphoria and trans identity are not how they’re commonly described, harsh punishments for using the “wrong” bathroom still don’t make sense, because the logical conclusion would be that those people are misguided or deluded, not predatory.
Still, it behooves us all to understand the emotional reasoning behind gender-segregated bathrooms: in most cultures (at least Western ones, but I think it goes further) there is a deep-seated idea that certain things are wrong if done in the presence of people of the other gender. Cultures with very different attitudes to nudity, for example, still have gender-segregated baths and saunas. I don’t think there’s any logical reason for this, but people (especially conservatives) feel the need to preserve it: the idea of gender-neutral bathrooms is crazy to them.
What, then, do you do with people who say their gender is other than what you, the dominant culture, say it is? Do you let them use the bathroom/shower/sauna they say they should? But then ANYONE could say their gender is different, and you wouldn’t have gender segregation at all! Oh no!
And actually, I agree with this. I think if you’re going to let people pick which bathroom they use according to their self-identification, gender segregated bathrooms are pointless, so we should get rid of them. Of course, this is not a popular view even among moderate left-wingers in Western countries, never mind Republicans, so we have this stupid culture war.
When my college moved to gender-neutral bathrooms they took every urinal out. It was a 60% loss in places to pee. Gender aside, it was a stupid decision.
Trans people who’ve medically transitioned ARE using the restroom that aligns with their sex. Trans women are biologically female. Trans men are biologically male. And frankly, I’m tired of pretending otherwise.
They probably don’t care about trans people existing, just blaming the smallest minority group for distraction until it doesn’t exist anymore, then going to the next bigger one.
Serious question: if they are a myth, why the need to ban trans people from anything?
I hereby ban dragons from Starbucks! And the bank! And from driving! Muahaha, I’m so fucking evil!!
Their logic, such as it is, is that since trans people don’t exist, anybody in the “wrong” bathroom is there for nefarious reasons.
It’s false to anybody with a brain, because trans people do exist. In fact, even if you think gender dysphoria and trans identity are not how they’re commonly described, harsh punishments for using the “wrong” bathroom still don’t make sense, because the logical conclusion would be that those people are misguided or deluded, not predatory.
Still, it behooves us all to understand the emotional reasoning behind gender-segregated bathrooms: in most cultures (at least Western ones, but I think it goes further) there is a deep-seated idea that certain things are wrong if done in the presence of people of the other gender. Cultures with very different attitudes to nudity, for example, still have gender-segregated baths and saunas. I don’t think there’s any logical reason for this, but people (especially conservatives) feel the need to preserve it: the idea of gender-neutral bathrooms is crazy to them.
What, then, do you do with people who say their gender is other than what you, the dominant culture, say it is? Do you let them use the bathroom/shower/sauna they say they should? But then ANYONE could say their gender is different, and you wouldn’t have gender segregation at all! Oh no!
And actually, I agree with this. I think if you’re going to let people pick which bathroom they use according to their self-identification, gender segregated bathrooms are pointless, so we should get rid of them. Of course, this is not a popular view even among moderate left-wingers in Western countries, never mind Republicans, so we have this stupid culture war.
Agree. The fuck is wrong with a bathroom that has le gasp a urinal AND a toilet in one?!
Gender truly is a fuck.
When my college moved to gender-neutral bathrooms they took every urinal out. It was a 60% loss in places to pee. Gender aside, it was a stupid decision.
That’s The thing i was asking myself too.
Thank you very much for banning me. Now I can go finally touch grass and not read the Internet and fascist going ons.
Seriously dude (dudette? Non binary dragon??), don’t come back, because it’s a billion dollar fine and hundreds of years in horny jail
Is the wording in this really that trans people can’t use certain bathrooms, or that people must use the bathroom that aligns with their sex?
Trans people who’ve medically transitioned ARE using the restroom that aligns with their sex. Trans women are biologically female. Trans men are biologically male. And frankly, I’m tired of pretending otherwise.
What’s the difference?
One acknowledges the existence of trans people and the other doesn’t.
Both discriminate
Your question wasn’t about discrimination, it was about acknowledging the existence of trans people.
My question was obviously about discrimination. You are being deliberately obtuse.
I don’t feed trolls. Fuck off
Okay, buddy.
They probably don’t care about trans people existing, just blaming the smallest minority group for distraction until it doesn’t exist anymore, then going to the next bigger one.
Now why’d you have to go and ban me from everything? grrrr