Summary
Trump and his allies are signaling they may defy court rulings after a federal judge blocked Elon Musk’s DOGE from accessing Treasury payment systems.
JD Vance and Trump dismissed judicial authority, raising concerns of a constitutional crisis. Experts warn ignoring court orders would break legal precedent and undermine checks and balances.
Judges have repeatedly restrained Trump’s sweeping government cuts, but the administration continues pushing its agenda.
Critics say Musk’s influence represents an “attempted coup,” while Trump’s legal strategy may ultimately be tested at the Supreme Court.
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All the federal websites they took down were supposed to be back up today. They are not back up today. That’s a direct violation of a court order.
There is no “may”. They are signaling they will defy judges orders. They are in their “lies and misinformation” phase, where they convince dumb and racist Americans that it’s perfectly normal in our democracy for the president to be a self serving dictator.
I just wish more people had seen schoolhouse rock.
They ARE ALREADY defying court orders. The papers continue to refuse to call a spade a spade.
Who could have seen this coming? A convicted felon who has avoided any real consequences and spent his entire adult life fucking people over is gonna ignore the courts? Can’t wait for the wagging of the finger or shaking of the fist he’s got coming to him.
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Weren’t some of those deadlines last night? They’re not signaling, they’re already ignoring court orders
What happens when the judge sends a marshal? Popcorn eating begins…
What happens when the judge sends a marshal?
Nothing. Nothing will happen. Judges will send out an endless series of court orders essentially saying “Pretty Please”, but in the end, they will be able to do nothing beyond using a stern “disappointed parent” tone, asking politely, and just hoping Trump decides to comply. Because that’s all the power they have. And that’s not sarcasm. The Judicial branch has no power of enforcement.
From there, 99% of judges won’t do anything knowing that any attempt to take enforcement action on the President will immediately be struck down by the courts as the Supreme Court has already ruled that Trump is immune from prosecution, rendering any attempt at judicial enforcement an exercise in futility.
But let’s say a judge is willing to try. First, he’d have to find marshals actually willing to cooperate and face retaliation from Trump, his base, etc… Then what are the marshals expected to actually do? Walk up to the White House, knock on the door, and put Trump in handcuffs? They’d be lucky if they were able to set foot on the grounds before being told to fuck all the way off by the Secret Service. And that’s the GOOD outcome.
And then the retaliation tour begins. Admittedly, he probably wouldn’t have them arrested as that would be a little too on the nose, even for Trump. But they would start a smear campaign. There would be demands for the judge’s removal from the bench, and those marshals would probably be spending the rest of their lives in fear of retaliation from Trump’s mob. Think of what happened to the Georgia poll workers. That, only amplified about 50 times over. Again, this is the GOOD outcome for them.
Trump would then go on with business as usual as Fox News and Twitter write the whole thing off as an activist judge trying to make a name for himself at Trump’s expense as he says he should have just had the judge arrested for treason for openly defying Supreme Court orders declaring him immune, the irony and hypocrisy of his own statement notwithstanding.
Marshals fall under the Executive. Judicial branch doesn’t have any law enforcement.
Judges can and will send marshals to enforce court orders. If you or I are held in contempt and ignore a court order, we can absolutely expect a marshal to knock on our door and arrest us. I’m a lawyer admitted to four different Federal Courts.
In a normal functioning US, sure. But it doesn’t change the fact that the US Marshals report to the Dept of Justice, who reports to the Executive. Judicial branch doesn’t own their own law enforcement, and since norms and actual laws don’t matter in this timeline, I doubt the Executive is going to allow their own law enforcement to come after themselves.
So what happens when Trump pardons anyone arrested, or says it’s all official acts?
Our justice system is not a co-equal branch of government. It is merely an advisory panel with no enforcement power. With no enforcement power and nobody willing to enforce them, their rulings are mere suggestions that don’t actually have to be followed.
They are ignoring court orders. See also https://beehaw.org/post/18430614
…Vance said that the courts would inevitably “stop” Trump from trying to fire so many employees. When they do, Vance went on, Trump should “stand before the country like Andrew Jackson did, and say, ‘The chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.’”
Guy behind him in the vid looks like they are tripping balls.
