Have you guys also noticed this? I’m not talking about “Oh my family isn’t privacy conscious” I honestly get that for ur average moms and pops, they don’t know any better.
the problem is with how these big tech companies effectively poisoned the everyday Joe to think that handing over ur data like a good boy is the norm and breaking out is “weird” and “too much”, this blame also goes on Hollywood.
Yesterday my friend called me " Mr robot" for just taking my privacy seriously I thought it was funny.
some people also fired their single neuron and told me “People only do this when they have something to hide”
These remarks that I face from time to time really highlights the mentality of the general society where if you break out of the norm, even if it doesn’t harm them, they would find a way to make off handed remarks about it almost like they’re dissatisfied that you’re fighting.
Ask people that tell you that only those with something to hide care about privacy whether they shit with the door open or closed when there are others around.
It’s scary to think about how the next generations are essentially being groomed to believe that these invasive applications and surveillance are just normal. But that’s the goal of the big tech oligarchs.
Same reason they try and say it’s only criminals that want to protect their privacy.
that’s what I’m saying, surveillance is the new normal, its trendy, opposition is being an “Extremist” and “Creepy”
100%. We are the weirdos. I get made fun of daily for it.
arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
- Edward Snowden
It’s genuinely baffling. My spouse is not a very bright guy and sees zero issue with all of our online erosion of privacy, saying all the age verification stuff going on is completely irrelevant and you can just lie about your age so it will never be a problem in the future either… it drives me crazy how short sighted it is
unfortunately not everyone can be saved but we try to educate
I thought you were going in a different direction (Even without a Facebook account, Meta has your contact info because they scanned your friend’s phone) but both are true. I’ve had similar conversations about it and privacy is not a value most people think is worth standing for. The convenience always outweighs what, for them, is a non-issue.
Honestly, maybe I got some charisma or something because I got my friends to take some first steps by using Brave and Bitwarden. Got a couple of them on Signal as well
Why brave? Bitwarden is fine? Brave will be just choosing lesser evil. I mean sure it’s progress from chrome, but not by much.
Yeah if I talk about how everything is routed through VPN people just assume I’m deep into porn or worse.
Well, there’s a new War On VPNs starting (ugh). If the Forces of Enshittification prevail, we could see them banned in more countries. And not just the usual suspects either. The idea is being pushed in several US states, in the UK, and maybe(?) the Aussies? It’s being fought in all those ofc. But I’m afraid the political momentum for bans will build and build.
My hope is, that Canada will be chill and not follow the rest of us off a cliff. Come on, Canada! You’re our best hope!
I don’t see how they ban it though. I could surely just buy a VPS somewhere where it is allowed and then route through a VPN from there?
Sure, but the general populace has no idea that that’s possible or how to set anything like that up.
Well they have ways to make it very hard. China, Russia, and some other countries already block VPNs. Sure it’s not 100% ironclad. But it doesn’t have to be. They want to block the big majority. If 1% finds a way around, it was still effective.
There are technical ways, like DPI based blocking of the protocols. There are ways to bypass that, sure, but you lost most ppl already.
Then there are social ways. Make the risk too high if you’re caught. Ppl will be afraid to try.
I do not think the US, EU, Aus are close to that extreme yet. Not tryin to say this is right around the corner. But other countries already have done these things. It is possible we could see those measures in the future.
that’s what km sayinggg
It is worse than that. They often share your information directly, or initiate services that require your participation, and of course you must prove who you are to do so.
For as much as your average American loves big government conspiracies, and harping about other people violating the sanctity of their property, they have absolutely no actual privacy and security sense
Ayep. Probably including where you live and what you do for a living.
The really creepy one is stuff like 23andme where your genealogy obsessed extended family all does it and now they can statistically estimate your genome from your known family history and it’s all in a database for sale and Trump’s DOJ is likely buying
thank god my family didn’t use those services
You are becoming one of these “privacy weirdos” as some think. Fighting for own privacy and using all means to keep it in tact is a lonely battle. Its tough to find someone irl who share the same values. It looks like everybody just got into the same train and go with the flow. For them you are disruption, something uncommon, strange.
I work in IT and even a coworker called me out for trying to protect my privacy by leaving google services as much as possible and using GrapheneOS, running PiHole with unbound. I don’t know how people can work in that field and still be blind to all the privacy concerns.
What weirded me out at first in IT was gazing at all the big tech tools with no remorse. It kinda made me question - with all the telemetry, logging, analyzing data in your own apps nobody ever cares leaving some much own traces at big tech overlords.
I’ve sseen the same thing. Sadly, for most ppl, convenience beats privacy. If something is 1% more convenient, they will pick it no matter how awful it is.
That’s how big tech enshittifies everything. They bank on 99% of people putting convenience before anything else. Even before the future of their society. Most ppl do not understand how powerful information is.
I always gotta love the “why do you refuse the cookies? The site might not work!”.
Sweety I need you to understand that I do not care whether or not the site works. If it doesn’t then it’s not worth my time.
guhhh but I love cookies!
Look, you might be saying it’s the fault of people around you, but look at what you’re doing here, you give out your real name without a second thought, Mr. Robot.
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Sometimes I dream of saving the world. Saving everyone from the invisible hand
