• bearboiblake@pawb.social
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    7 hours ago

    Sanctions are never used righteously, that was just propaganda to get you to swallow them. They have ALWAYS been used to benefit the ruling class and the foreign policy goals of the American Empire.

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    13 hours ago

    I don’t think scantions work.

    With as many participants as there are in the global economy it makes sense: the sanctioned country can easily change suppliers and not have to change policy.

    Prior to the war in Iran, the US had sanctions on Iranian goods, especially oil. Iran has been selling mostly to China. Crude oil is about 56% of Iran’s exports.

    The point is, Iran still sells crude oil and makes revenue.

    (I’m not defending Trump, he scrapped the Iran nuclear deal in 2018 and (re)imposed sanctions on Iran.)

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      11 hours ago

      I don’t think scantions work.

      They certainly never achieve the intended objective, that is, change the system and government to US compradors, but they do work greatly in causing horrible humanitary effects. That’s about US sanctions, who up till recently basically controlled global financial system, and also like to bomb, invade, sabotage and incite riots in sanctioned countries to make things worse. For sanctions like Canadian, they aren’t very impactful, more of a political statement.

      • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
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        8 hours ago

        Wonder if Canada realised that they barely trade with Iran, if at all, and decided it would just be better to seem to appease their nearest neighbour without actually having done anything at all

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          6 hours ago

          Probably just that. Poland also did this during Trump first term, they organised very hostile conference about Iran which had basically zero points or actions beside US vassals loudly proclaiming their allegiance. Iran treated it seriously though and it basically completely ruined Polish-Iranian trade deals (which were not very significant but they did existed) and relation (which were traditionally good).

          Bonus points for first-class comedy though when the bumbling fool Pompeo gathered entire room of Polish PiS officials (usually antisemites) and illegally demanded Poland pays reparations for WW2 to some Jews in USA, which make them both enraged and realised they can’t do shit since they just at the same day loudly proclaimed their allegiance to USA (nothing real came out from this too).

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      It’s only quite recently that some countries have begun to start trading oil in yuan. It’s certainly not easy to circumvent the petrodollar system that’s been in place since WW2. For one thing, the US will start bombing you.

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    15 hours ago

    When we said that the rules based order was not coming back, we meant that we were personally going to bring it down by supporting wars of aggression.

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      14 hours ago

      The Islamic regime has murdered Canadian citizens.

      The only bad thing about Imperialist US and theo-fascist Iran beating up on each other is that civilians get hurt.

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        7 hours ago

        The only bad thing about Imperialist US and theo-fascist Iran beating up on each other is that civilians get hurt.

        But other than that, how was the play, Ms. Lincoln?

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        7 hours ago

        Fuck nationalism. Who cares what nation we’re from, humans are suffering, Canada is causing MORE SUFFERING through sanctions. Stop supporting this bullshit.

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            7 hours ago

            Just stop repeating their propaganda talking points. There is one very clear aggressor here, one obvious bad guy, so just hold onto your “both sides” rhetoric until after the war is concluded, it does less than nothing to help Iranian people right now, all it does is sanewash Israel and the US.

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              6 hours ago

              The American government killed a lot of Germans, Italians, and Japanese from 1942 to 1945.

              FAIK, they might have accidentally hit the odd girl school, and cowering German socialist and/or Jew in hiding.

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          7 hours ago

          wp:Canada–Iran relations#2003: Zahra Kazemi

          Relations between Canada and Iran drastically deteriorated in June 2003 when Zahra Kazemi, an Iranian-Canadian freelance photographer from Montreal, was arrested while taking pictures outside a prison in Tehran during a student protest. Three weeks later, she was killed while in custody.[16]

          Iranian authorities insisted that her death was accidental, claiming that she died of a stroke while being interrogated. However, Shahram Azam, a former military staff physician, stated that he examined Kazemi’s body and observed obvious signs of torture, including a skull fracture, broken nose, signs of rape and severe abdominal bruising. This information was revealed within Azam’s case for seeking asylum in Canada in 2004.[16]

          If the US killed the police who arrested her and those who interrogated her, I wouldn’t be terribly sad—ditto those who did the same and similar to perhaps 100s or 1000s of Iranian women (and men).

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    22 hours ago

    Is Canada a significant net exporter of oil? If it is then this could make a lot of sense from a domestic perspective in a twist the knife on the global economy for profit kind of way.

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    23 hours ago

    Strange that I don’t see many Canadians pointing out Canada supporting US imperialism yet again.

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      Canada and the US aren’t just allies, we’re tightly integrated militarily.

      It may look like two separate countries on the political stage, but behind the scenes we operate together. When Canadian personnel are already embedded in command structures in the region, it’s not realistic to expect Canada to fully denounce the conflict

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        8 hours ago

        Oh we already know.

        The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy. We know you fuckwits love sharing war crimes together, but then position yourselves as “polite” with online propaganda.

        It’s only getting more evident to the international audience every passing day.

        Keep it up tho. The world needs to see through the artificial facade you put up. 👌

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          It is though: We have about 150 currently in Canada. 69 members of the U.S. air force (Because NORAD), 36 from the navy, 29 from the army, 15 from the Marine Corps, four from the Coast Guard and three from Space Force.

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            It is though

            We do help them militarily, and in return, the US rhetorically does not consider Canada as a sovereign country. So really, there’s no good reason to keep up that alliance, aside from masochism.

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              14 hours ago

              the US rhetorically does not consider Canada as a sovereign country.

              Some elements of the US government, but I think Canada will make it past 2028.

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    Iran isn’t so much defending itself, as it is establishing consequences for the West by bombing everyone they can in the region (while still holding back to some extent).

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      23 hours ago

      Businesses aren’t neutral. German industry was decimated during WW2 because they were essential to Germany’s ability to conduct war. This is no different.

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      Business that are “involved in the procurement networks that produce and supply sophisticated technology supporting the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ (IRGC’s) weapons production and transfers”. In other words, businesses necessary for Iran to defend itself like any country.

      Add to that from the quick facts at the bottom: “designating Iran as a foreign state supporter of terrorism under the State Immunity Act; the Government of Canada reconfirmed this designation in December 2025”…,are they designating the US or Israel too? Because both have a proven track record.

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      The US has helped Iran develop new income sources like bribes for every ship

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              The fact that it only leads into Canada and the US? It’s not a passage that is used by other countries for exports or imports. Any ship in it has business with one or the other.

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                  Both of those were built and aren’t on a border of a country but fully inside one. Not that I agree how the Panama canal is handled or was built, mind you.

                  A better comparison would be the gilbraltar straight, which obviously no one owns.

                  To be clear, I would be doing the same if I was Iran but it is worrisome. Furthermore, Trump deserves what’s happening but not because of some hypocrisy linked to the St. Lawrence specifically.

                  The energy is right but the comparison isn’t imo, that’s all.