Everyone is just pretending to some extent or another. An absolutely sober truth teller would be entirely unpalatable to most voters. There’s always going to be some amount of smoothing over of the facts. It’s just a matter of deciding what’s acceptable. In this case, I’ll take anyone who doesn’t pretend that ICE or the CBP can be somehow reformed. There also have to be criminal prosecutions.
I consider the US to be suffering a mental illness epidemic… ever since 9/11, really. The fervent nationalism and propaganda displayed back then was insane, and it’s only gotten worse.
All of US conservatisms mental-illnesses are self evident, but the “liberals” are also so brainwashed and propagandized that they’re still holding out for future elections while the dictatorship is installed before their very eyes, their only hope for leadership is 1% career politicians and billionaires, and it is well beyond the stage for wide scale general strikes, and preparation of armed insurgency and secession.
ever since 9/11, really. The fervent nationalism and propaganda displayed back then was insane, and it’s only gotten worse.
9/11/02 I got sent home from school because I worse a shirt that said “bad cop, no doughnut”…
Even tho no one could explain to me what it had to do with 9/11, me saying I forgot it was 9/11 didn’t help either.
they’re still holding out for future elections
I’m not saying don’t have a plan b, just that there’s no reason to pre-emptively give up on plan a…
Especially since we finally got a non biased DNC chair. I think you’re upset they’re not overtly progressive, but that is short sighted. If we try to keep the DNC corrupt, but to our advantage long term nothing gets fixed.
It’s like LOTR and deciding Gollum had the best plan. We gotta throw that shit in the volcano or it will corrupt us too. We can’t use something as corrupt as the One Ring for good, that’s why Gandalf didn’t just put it on and 1v1 Sauron, because he’d win and in the process become even worse than Sauron.
For the past 8 months the DNC is being weakened, it’s taking all the money Biden/Kamala had hoarded, and distributing back to state parties. Which is good, we don’t want the Dem party structured with that much consolidated power. Because we can lose it. We want a bottom-top structured party.
But ignorant people think nothing is being done and still rant and rave against the DNC when we just won a 30+ year war over how it should be structured…
Billionaires just ain’t going to let the media companies they own tell the masses the billionaires lost.
This is… Patently untrue unless we’re also going legislate a 100% open-doors immigration policy and global free trade agreements. Which, Ok, i could see a argument there, but is saying something very different than ‘The organization ICE is corrupt beyond recovery and is going to need its own Nuremberg after all of this is over, but they had a day job before they went full brownshirt and someone will need to be doing that job afterwards’ like this article is suggesting.
America didn’t have open-doors immigration before 2003 when ICE was established. Their day jobs were performed by other agencies that, notably, were not private militias of the president.
It doesn’t need to exist at all…
Wild that the author doesn’t know that, I’m not sure if they’re just ignorant or controlled opposition.
It’s getting really hard to tell these days who’s being intentionally ignorant, or who’s just pretending
Everyone is just pretending to some extent or another. An absolutely sober truth teller would be entirely unpalatable to most voters. There’s always going to be some amount of smoothing over of the facts. It’s just a matter of deciding what’s acceptable. In this case, I’ll take anyone who doesn’t pretend that ICE or the CBP can be somehow reformed. There also have to be criminal prosecutions.
I consider the US to be suffering a mental illness epidemic… ever since 9/11, really. The fervent nationalism and propaganda displayed back then was insane, and it’s only gotten worse.
All of US conservatisms mental-illnesses are self evident, but the “liberals” are also so brainwashed and propagandized that they’re still holding out for future elections while the dictatorship is installed before their very eyes, their only hope for leadership is 1% career politicians and billionaires, and it is well beyond the stage for wide scale general strikes, and preparation of armed insurgency and secession.
9/11/02 I got sent home from school because I worse a shirt that said “bad cop, no doughnut”…
Even tho no one could explain to me what it had to do with 9/11, me saying I forgot it was 9/11 didn’t help either.
I’m not saying don’t have a plan b, just that there’s no reason to pre-emptively give up on plan a…
Especially since we finally got a non biased DNC chair. I think you’re upset they’re not overtly progressive, but that is short sighted. If we try to keep the DNC corrupt, but to our advantage long term nothing gets fixed.
It’s like LOTR and deciding Gollum had the best plan. We gotta throw that shit in the volcano or it will corrupt us too. We can’t use something as corrupt as the One Ring for good, that’s why Gandalf didn’t just put it on and 1v1 Sauron, because he’d win and in the process become even worse than Sauron.
For the past 8 months the DNC is being weakened, it’s taking all the money Biden/Kamala had hoarded, and distributing back to state parties. Which is good, we don’t want the Dem party structured with that much consolidated power. Because we can lose it. We want a bottom-top structured party.
But ignorant people think nothing is being done and still rant and rave against the DNC when we just won a 30+ year war over how it should be structured…
Billionaires just ain’t going to let the media companies they own tell the masses the billionaires lost.
This is… Patently untrue unless we’re also going legislate a 100% open-doors immigration policy and global free trade agreements. Which, Ok, i could see a argument there, but is saying something very different than ‘The organization ICE is corrupt beyond recovery and is going to need its own Nuremberg after all of this is over, but they had a day job before they went full brownshirt and someone will need to be doing that job afterwards’ like this article is suggesting.
America didn’t have open-doors immigration before 2003 when ICE was established. Their day jobs were performed by other agencies that, notably, were not private militias of the president.
Whut?
You do know ICE wasn’t created till 2003, right?
What do you think happened before 2003?
Do you think for the 200+ years that America existed without ICE that: