The incident unfolded Saturday in Chicago’s Old Irving Park neighborhood, where residents say federal agents disrupted a children’s Halloween parade

Shocking video shows a chaotic scene on a quiet Chicago street as Border Patrol agents in tactical gear drag a 67-year-old man from his car while children in Halloween costumes look on in horror.

According to his running club, the man, who is a U.S. citizen, was returning from a team run when agents pulled him out of his vehicle, tackled him to the ground and kneeled on top of him, allegedly breaking six ribs and causing internal bleeding.

The incident unfolded Saturday in the city’s Old Irving Park neighborhood, where residents say the agents disrupted a children’s Halloween parade amid an immigration enforcement operation.

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    I cannot WAIT for the hammer to fall. Nazis were not this bad to their own citizens. I read an article that said the Republicans are planning to escape to Venezuela if the mid terms go bad for them. These fucking Democrat pussy politicians better prosecute ICE and everyone involved in this.

    Trump is literally trying to provoke confrontation were none is so he can have a weak ass justification to clamp down harder … just in time for mid terms.

    He is a fucking traitor.

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      Nazis were not this bad to their own citizens.

      Really? The relocation to ghettos, the camps, the beatings, and the gold stars/pink triangles were better treatment than this? On par, sure. But better?

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        Well … less than 1% of the population were targeted by the Nazi party. More along the lines of 500k people, and many of them left.

        MAGA is going after 30-35% of the population … assuming ICE is screening by skin color (which they are).

        Its simple numbers. MAGA is going to be way worse than the Nazi party once they get fully ramped up.

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        It’s a meme. It appeared to have originated from a rap song, and then was “remixed” by some kid on TikTok saying the line with the “comparative” hand gesture.

        Don’t ask me why kids think it’s hilarious. It just seems pretty “lol random” to me 🤷‍♂️ At least Skibidi Toilet has a fucking hilarious premise and origin (stupid Gmod/SFM video series that is surprisingly deep despite being presented as utter brain rot. Plus toilets are funny.)

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        I too am confused. I’m teaching my toddler to count to 10 and my older kids chime in each time as I pass these numbers

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    Things banned in #LandoftheFree:

    • Drones (because you must be a CCP Spy or Mexican Cartel member)
    • Radios (because only drug cartels use them)
    • Building electronics gadgets with complex wiring (because Mrs. Karen says she saw an “illegal” with a “bomb”)
    • Perfume (because its definitely drugs)
    • 1st amendment (because bald JD Vance = terrorism)
    • Excercising (because running = crime)

    Did I miss anything?

    [Edit:

    • Doing Algebra on a plane (remember that?)
    • Speaking a non-English language (must be a spy talking to their handler)
    • Hand gestures and sign language (must be gang signs)
    • Tattoos (must be MS-13)

    ]

    Fyi, I would not have dared to make this Lemmy account if I weren’t a US Citizen, but even so, I still wonder when gestapo comes to my door, given how things are going.

    If my account ever becomes inactive, either I forgot the password, or I’m in Gitmo.

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      Excercising (because running = crime)

      Dude wasn’t even running. He was in his car just trying to go home after running. Turned onto his street and got pulled out of his car and assaulted.

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    If America saw what America was doing to America, then America would invade America to liberate America.

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        So what sort of low risk tactics can we start advising for people in areas where ICE is active? As much as we all want them shot on sight, I think a lot more people are willing to engage them in ways that they are less likely to be arrested and have their lives ruined for.

        Things like snipping tire stems, or paint splashing windshields, are still probably going to get you in trouble, but you have a larger chance of getting away than directly assaulting an ICE agent. But that risk will still deter lots of people.

        I want the Internet tacticians to brainstorm something that my 60’s white mom might be willing to do if she got the chance. Phoney reports maybe? Bad driving and eating a ticket? What can we come up with besides holding signs and recording for social media?

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          Rape whistles.

          People have already been using them. As soon as ICE shows up, you start blowing the rape whistle and you don’t stop until they’re gone. This alerts anyone with brown skin to get out of the area and it also draws a crowd. And we’ve seen the videos where these fascist cowards run as soon as the crowd gets too big.

          This alerts anyone with brown skin to get out of the area

          I want everyone reading this to understand how surreal it is to have to type this sentence. It’s a condemnation of how far we’ve fallen as a nation.

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            I bought a Fox 40 whistle, 125 decibels. Less than $11. Considering that 1,800 people sent to Alligator Alcatraz are missing, that money might save lives from a mass grave.

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          Water balloon with paint isn’t a bad idea. Bad driving that prevents them from getting to their location, also not a bad idea. I think it comes down to context. You’ve really got to consider what’s going on and how safe you are by doing anything. In some contexts, your 60yo mom might get dragged out of her car and kneeled on until 6 of her ribs break. In others, you might be walking by an empty squad car, agents busy elsewhere, and you happen to have a paint balloon.

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          I’m gonna get a slingshot, so i can dent door panels and shatter windows/windshields from a good distance away without the possibility of it being considered lethal force

          I also want to dent cybertrucks

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    I have a very active, physical job, and I break a rib or two every decade or so, just to remind myself that I’m alive - it reminds you with every breath for a few weeks. I already had this decade 's break earlier this year.

    So I know what it takes to break a rib, and what it feels like. I can’t imagine the kind of force it took to break SIX ribs badly enough to cause internal bleeding. I’ve taken some terrible falls, and I’ve never hurt myself anywhere near that badly.

    To cause that kind of damage to an unarmed person cannot be justified in any way. Surely they could have detained him without causing that level of injury.

    And he was an innocent American citizen? I hope he sues the Federal Government, ICE, Holman, Noem, Trump, and the ICE Nazis who injured him.

    Pay the man.

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      You legitimize ICE by using the terminology of actual law enforcement. They didn’t “detain” him, they assaulted and kidnapped him.

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        And why? He’s a US citizen in a vehicle. Why is ICE even touching him at all?

        They’re not law enforcement and have no reason to touch US citizens. We’re not required to show our papers to them.

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      And he was an innocent American citizen? I

      To be clear (I don’t think you’re suggesting this), it should not fucking matter.

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        Valid, but it does matter that as an innocent American citizen, they shouldn’t even have been LOOKING in his general direction, to say nothing of trying to murder him.

        If I were him, I’d be working on my wish list of expensive stuff I’m going to buy when I get my multiple settlements.

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      I can’t imagine the kind of force it took to break SIX ribs badly enough to cause internal bleeding.

      Unfortunately not that much force is really required when you’re dealing with someone who is 67. The elderly are a lot more fragile, even if they are in great shape for their age. Which is why anyone without a brain disease knows to be gentle when assisting the elderly.

      There is no reason to use this much force against an unarmed senior citizen other than to physically harm them.

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        Remember in the first Trump administration, when they were just practicing their cruelty, and they permanently disabled an old man for having the nerve to politely return a riot cops helmet that he had dropped? In response, the cop shoved the old guy, knocking him down, bashing his head, and destroying his life.

        I will never forget watching that video, and as the old guy hit the pavement and laid there, a trickle of blood came out of his ear, and I knew he was seriously injured.

        That was an accident, now they’re doing purposefully.

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            I remember the video. He shoved the guy away, but I don’t think he meant to knock him down. The cop seemed really disturbed by it at the time, as well. He was not happy about it, but that’s what happens when you join up with a fascist authoritarian force to abuse your fellow citizens - you find yourself doing heinous shit that they told you on Sunday School would send you straight to Hell.

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              I remember they didn’t help him back up either so on purpose or not really doesn’t make a difference.

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                Valid. I’m not defending the guy, I just saw his immediate remorse.

                And I was glad to see it. He joined up thinking it would be service to his country, and even kind of fun. Now he finds himself oppressing his fellow citizens, and trying to keep that tough face, knowing he’s in the wrong place.

                Then this happens to him, and his regret was palpable. I don’t know whatever happened to that guy, but he was clearly having conflicts with his role. I’ll bet he is still feeling guilty over his actions, which he deserves.

                If he’s still on board, then he deserves any bad karma or addictions or poor mental health he suffers as a result.

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      What do you do that you regularly break ribs? Like sports? Or do you bolster the weight of something with your torso? I’ve worked a not very intense physical jobs, but more physical jobs than customer service or office work, but I can’t think of how one would keep breaking ribs

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        It’s not that often, just once every ten years or so. I fell off the back of a truck once. A five foot fall onto your side on pavement will do it.

        Once I did it chasing a duck so I could pick it up for my son at a big petting farm. I was chasing the duck, it juked around a tree, and as I juked with it, I realized I was about to mow down a grandma and her little grandson. So I threw myself out of the way, and went down hard. My son was about 5 then. He’s 26 now.

        This year, I fell pushing a small compressed gas dewar, and the wheel caught in a crack in the sidewalk, and we both went over, I fell on the tank, and broke a couple of ribs. There have been other times, too. I first did it as a teen on a Boy Scout trip. Like I said, about once a decade.

        I don’t even go to the doctor any more. I know what it feels like, and I know what he’s going to do - nothing. I can do that without wasting my time.

        I have realized that most of my injuries have been caused by moving too quickly. I am trying to measure my movements more carefully, and take my time. As I get older, it takes longer to recover.

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          A tip I was given as a teenager from an old medicine man/ massage therapist: Ensure that you are only bending on one axis at a time. Most injuries that he saw occured when someone was bending and twisting thereby causing stress on multiple axes at a time. I’m 45 and by heeding this advice, I have avoided injuring myself quite a lot. Tumbling classes also helps immensely, but you kinda need those as a toddler/kid.

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            Oh man do I have to keep you like this in mind. Way to often I find myself doing something difficult and repetitive cantilevered out and twisted. I’ll suddenly realize it and think wtf am I doing?

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            Re: tumbling classes I think I got similar benefits from being bad at roller skating as a kid. I learned to fall gracefully and often, and tuck your hands close to your body so no one runs over your fingers.

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          You got some weak bones. Drink some more milk or learn how to fall better. A five foot drop shouldn’t break your ribs. I say this as someone who rides downhill mountain bike and crashes often and from higher than 2 meters.

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            I don’t have weak bones, I just live life like I mean it. If you don’t get an injury now and then, you ain’t having enough fun. I’m also a large, heavy, muscular guy, so I don’t tend to bounce, I tend to smash.

            And what the fuck do you know about falling off the back of a truck anyway? You weren’t there. You can simply declare that I wasn’t injured by a five foot dead fall to the pavement? This is how it works - you fall on your side, your arm under your ribcage, and either your arm gives way, or your ribcage does (or your clavicle, which I’ve never broken, thankfully). The rib cage is weaker, so it flexes, and if it flexes enough it cracks. A five foot fall is more than enough to do it. I did it this year falling from a standing position. I was the one taking shallow breaths for 3 weeks, I know what’s up. It could be that I keep breaking them in the same spots, too, I don’t know, I haven’t kept track of the exact locations of my rib breaks.

            I actually did shatter my humerus once, but that’s another story, and a pretty boring one, really. Lots of surgery and titanium hardware, that one will never break again, I’m essentially a cyborg now.

            Oh yeah, I also broke a rib in a bike crash once, cuz I don’t ride like a pussy.

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              Lol. That legit made me laugh. If i were you i’d be wearing a bubble wrap suit because having a borked rib is the worst.

              Keep on being awesome stranger.

              Edit: Since you decided to add extra with your edit here is my edit:

              cuz I don’t ride like a pussy.

              Did you not read the downhill mountain biking part of my post? I’m talking 5 meter gap jumps and 3 meter high drops. I’m a big guy too. And I crash a lot on really gnarly stuff. But I learned how to fall when I was in the army, and I drink lots of milk to keep my bones strong. Even if you just learn how to fall properly you can reduce the amount of injuries you receive, although at 45 it might be hard to change those reactions. I learned how to fall long before my 40s so your mileage may vary.

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                I once had a friend and neighbour who was an aikido sensei. He was kind of an awkward dork, but magically calm and centered physically. One thing aikido is good at is endless fall training.

                He once had a truck swerve toward him and his response had his motorcycle aiming at two older women on the sidewalk, so he cranked it hard into a hedge with a small wall behind it. He was going fast enough that it launched him off the bike and all the way across the yard to the front door of the house.

                Naturally he executed a perfect roll and finished on his feet facing back at the old gals on the sidewalk before he knew what he was doing. He nodded politely and tried to keep his cool and a superhero aura for comedic effect despite being freaked out at flying around 30 feet or so, but it’s a good story about how training is bigger than you at times.

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                We saw someone on TV (maybe Shark Tank) who had invented some kind of motorcycle jacket with a built-in airbag, and my wife said I should wear one at all times.

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      I hope there are good lawyers involved in this case we gotta start making serious dents in that $78 billion budget grift.

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    So. Where are the Bikers? Seriously. What the fuck happened to bikers looking after their community?

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    For those who only know about Chicago from the news:

    Old Irving Park is a nice, mostly residential historic neighborhood on the northwest side. It’s not the nicest or fanciest (those are more toward the lake) but it’s definitely on the upper end. It’s a neighborhood someone in a high rise might move to when you have a family.

    Bonus fact: Chicagoans mostly stick to normal pizza. Deep dish is for tourists.

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      Deep dish is delicious, but it’s also expensive. One of the great things about pizza is that it’s supposed to be cheap.

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        It’s expensive, hard to eat, and heavy. Thin crust keeps the party going, deep dish makes you sleepy.

        Real “Chicago pizza” is tavern-style thin crust, yum.

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        yeah but one slice puts you away. One stuffed pizza would feed my wife and I for days so the expense was not bad. Ugh so annoyed perrys closed down.

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            my wife and I (this is very much majority I) could finish it off in half a week. I was sick of it like thanksgiving. Did not want to necessarily get another real soon but liked it to the last bite. I will say if they have multiple sizes you generally want to have the smallest one.

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      speak for yourself. deep dish is awesome. but yeah I would live in old irving in heartbeat and a friend of mine used to live in the area.

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        I like deep dish, based on your other reply in this chain I think we’re on the same page! I guess I was a little hyperbolic there to say it’s “for tourists”

        I meant Chicagoans aren’t consuming it the way New York style pizza is consumed in New York…which is apparently a popular misconception about Chicago. We default to thin crust like normal people lol

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          oh yeah. could not eat it every night but oh boy ordering it is a special occasion. This place perrys that closed down near us had a great one and at times we got it almost once a month but yeah im thinking even at the height maybe 6 times a year and have not had it for years. Part of that though is I just have not found a new one I love. well that and we currently have to pinch every penny and are not eating out at all.

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            I think deep dish is really only “good” when it’s straight out of the oven and it’s been years since I’ve ordered pizza that wasn’t delivered

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              I actually found it held up in the fridge well and heated up well as long as you take into account its dense nature. It actually did not surprise me given its practically a block of cheese.

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                Ah really? I’ve never gotten it to be hot all the way through without burning the crust. Then again, it’s even more rare that I have any left over since I’m not ordering it lol

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                  Wrap it in foil. Or at least foil underneath, then fold it over the crust.

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                  What worked for me is the microwave despite it being not recommended desite most people using it anyway. I cooked it using defrost which I actually do with a lot of foods that benefit from a slow cook. Just not good to do with anything that will dry out although sometimes adding a little water will do but like meat its not good to do slow unless something can seal in the juices.

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          Yeah, it’s a bit much, and unwieldy, grabbing a slice of deep dish from the counter by the subway you just exited because you want a snack.