• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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      Flatpaks are better than Snaps, but properly maintained dependency trees and SBOMs are best, by a wide margin.

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        I rarely encounter them. But they usually work when I do. But, ugh, they’re just kinda gross. Like, is this a .exe? No thank you. Don’t give me windows trauma.

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          I’m always like, “well, now where do I put this executable?”

          But they do work

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            Clearly in $HOME/Downloads/ and forget that you left it there. Then use app(3).AppImage the next time when you redownload it. Keeps you running the most up to date version. It’s flawless.

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            I stick them in /home/bin/ like I would for a compiled app. I found a forum for mint saying thats the expectation for user apps with no specific install location, which is pretty much the issue, anyway.

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        Are you running on a really space constrained system? I Used an old Chromebook with only 16Gb of storage for a bit, and to me it’s kinda fun to figure out alternative solutions and applications that can make a system like that work. But when I’ve got a system with 500GB+, I say who cares about the space packages take up.

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      TBH if it’s just for that I’d rather use nix packages. But flatpak’s sandboxed app are better for sus packages or proprietary-might-spy-everywhere packages.

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      I’ve had the opposite experience with flatpaks that I have with snaps. I don’t really use them much. But when I see that as an option I use it and it just works. Definitely a fan as a USER of them. I’m sure people have their complaints as users and developers. But I definitely have to say it’s been positive so far. Which is a rare consistency in the life of installing packages.

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    As a non IT person I find Linux way better for installing software. The sort of apps non IT people use. The Software store has most of what I need. There rest I install the Windows way. From a website. Apps with a Linux version almost always detect and offer a Linux button to click to install. I wouldn’t know what to do if that didn’t work. Ditch that application I guess. My distros are pretty standard. Not hacked about. My apps are not too weird. I’ve been doing it this way for 14+ years. Never needed the CLI either.

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    This is why you use Arch/Nix because the package is likely in their repos.

    The software probably still won’t work, but you can waste more time on it.

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      I installed and then ran Gentoo for about 9 months back when it first came out, before Robbins stepped down. I remember the install was pretty involved, but after that it was a pretty sweet system. I keep saying I’m going to go back to it, but just can’t be bothered anymore. As good as it was 20 years ago, I’m sure it’s even better now.

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        Yeah, basically handling all the caveats is now automated and you can choose to use binary packages.

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    Last week was the first time I think I’ve ever got a random Internet tarball to configure, make and make install. Program even did what it was supposed to too. I was amazed.

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    I honestly can’t remember the last time I’ve come across a package that I needed that so obscure that it wasn’t found somewhere as at the very least an appimage, if not a flatpak. I haven’t had to build from source in I don’t even know how many years now.

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      Try making music on Linux. You’ll be compiling obscure shit and tweaking configs all the time.

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        True. But I was coming at if from the perspective of an every day user coming from Windows. email, word processing, internet, etc… Even gaming and photo editing.

        The more professional the needed software gets, of course the more obscure it gets.

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      General use package? Sure Specialized package to do something specific in a specific field? Good luck.

      I still have flashbacks of installing a c++ library which had to be transpired (or whatever the term is) to c# for another library to work, and having to go manually fix several function and type declarations manually to make it work. And we are talking about the golden standard library in the field…

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      I think it depends on the distro. Nixos is pretty bad for this if you want to try out a project that is really new. If you wait a month or two a flake usually comes out somewhere.

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    Things have gotten so, so much better over the last 5 or 6 years.

    Flatpak, appimage, docker are just brilliant.

    I recently discovered nix and am in that honeymoon phase of trying to hit every nail with that hammer.

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        I mean technically so are repos to some extent. Many of them have very few maintainers and you are basically just blindly trusting that they won’t both miss anything malicious nor be the cause of it.

        A little safer but not some ultimate Bastion of safety

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          Not really as repos go thought testing and most distros have reproducible builds.

          AUR packages can be submitted by anyone with no testing or validation for the most part.

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    The last picture in the meme always bothered me, because the sequence doesn’t make any sense physically. (Popping the rake from mid air and doing the wrong flip and such)

    So, I went on to find the sequence that I believe it was drawn from.

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      you think the sequence doesn’t make physical sense, but skateboarding on a rake is fine?

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        I know it’s completely off-topic, but anyway. No, I’m fine with the rake. That’s what’s makes it funny.

        It’s the drawing of the skater that is too good, and that doesn’t add up with the other details being wrong. Someone who can draw a skater that good wouldn’t make the other things that wrong or even random.

        The rake is drawn as doing a frontside shove-it, popped from mid-air and failing because of gravity suddenly changing in the middle of the sequence. The skater is “obviously” doing a varial heelflip instead of a frontside shove-it.

        So that’s the clue to why I thought it was drawn off an actual picture. That the background is also a copy of the original only reaffirms my theory.

        In hindsight I can also see that the skater is obviously Andrew Reynolds. The tuck and landing is his signature style.

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    When the dependencies need dependencies and then those dependencies need dependencies, the rabbit hole is endless!