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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago

If I had a dollar for every time I saw a liberal on lemmy bringing up fictitious UYgHUr GeNoCiDE.....

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If I had a dollar for every time I saw a liberal on lemmy bringing up fictitious UYgHUr GeNoCiDE.....

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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago
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  • stinky@redlemmy.com
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    it’s in the article you cited my dude

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      I cited it as a beginning of understanding the allegations, which you yourself go above and beyond into fantasy by claiming China is “trying to exterminate the Uyghurs.” Did you read China’s response, or the Qiao Collective’s resource compilation?

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        ["While individual women have spoken out before about forced birth control, the practice is far more widespread and systematic than previously known, according to an AP investigation based on government statistics, state documents and interviews with 30 ex-detainees, family members and a former detention camp instructor. The campaign over the past four years in the far west region of Xinjiang is leading to what some experts are calling a form of “demographic genocide.”

        The state regularly subjects minority women to pregnancy checks, and forces intrauterine devices, sterilization and even abortion on hundreds of thousands, the interviews and data show. Even while the use of IUDs and sterilization has fallen nationwide, it is rising sharply in Xinjiang."]( https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-international-news-weekend-reads-china-health-269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c#%3A~%3Atext=The+Chinese+government+is+taking%2Cmajority+to+have+more+children)

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          The hundreds of millions of dollars the government pours into birth control has transformed Xinjiang from one of China’s fastest-growing regions to among its slowest in just a few years, according to new research obtained by The Associated Press in advance of publication by China scholar Adrian Zenz.

          “This kind of drop is unprecedented…there’s a ruthlessness to it,” said Zenz, a leading expert in the policing of China’s minority regions. “This is part of a wider control campaign to subjugate the Uighurs.”

          You’re citing the very same professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation I spoke of earlier. This is not a real source, it’s fiction. Here’s a decent source going over Zenz and his background as a propagandist.

          IUD usage is increasing as Xinjiang develops economically and family planning becomes more important. The Uyghur people were exempt from the One Child Policy, and as a consequence the increase in IUD usage seems more drastic than it actually is, plus Zenz was caught literally making up numbers.

          • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/it/its/its/itself, she/her/her/hers/herself, fae/faer/faer/faers/faerself, love/love/loves/loves/loveself, des/pair, null/void, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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            100%[1] of new[2] IUDs[3] in China[4] are being forced[5] on Uyghurs[6]


            1. It is known ↩︎

            2. It is known ↩︎

            3. It is known ↩︎

            4. It is known ↩︎

            5. It is known ↩︎

            6. Source: Zenz ↩︎

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              Yep, any time I see the word “IUD” on anything related to Xinjiang I ctrl+f “Zenz” and 99/100 times it pops up. The last 1/100 is just a link to Zenz indirectly.

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        Did you not read my comment? I posted a link to the assessment which has an annex containing China’s response.

        … how old are you? if you don’t mind me asking

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          I do mind you asking, and yes, I do understand what you linked. I’ve read the report, and again, did you read China’s response, and did you read Qiao Collective’s resources? The PRC is not exterminating Uyghurs, again, read the response itself and Qiao Collective’s resources. Read section 25 of China’s response.

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            …you just linked the annex that I mentioned above. You’re not even reading my responses. Best of luck to you.

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              I am reading your responses, you insisted on just accepting the UN report alone without checking China’s response nor the Qiao Collective resources.

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