If the united states randomly decided to hit every square kilometer of Liechtenstein with its own hydrogen bomb in the middle of the night, would you call that a war?
No. One country, backed by all the money and weapons of the west, was given land that was stolen from palestine in 1948, then they proceeded to slowly eradicate and remove the palestinian population. Just look at maps of palestine from 1948 to today, and watch the genocides progression.
The Zionists bought and smuggled in surplus WW2 weapons from Czechoslovakia during that time. The Soviet Union helped the Zionists, which were dominated by socialists at the time in the hopes of gaining an ally.
Between 1948 and 1967 there was no slow removal of Palestinian Arabs. Almost all of it was quite sudden in 1948. Keep in mind that Jewish Palestinians were expelled from the Jordan occupied West Bank and half of Jerusalem. Gaza was occupied by Egypt and Jews were expelled. Arab and Muslim countries persecuted and expelled their Jewish population after 1948, resulting in 800,000 to a millions Jews fleeing, many to Israel.
It’s bad because it suggests two matched belligerents. It’s like the difference between a boxing match with a skill gap, and a boxer violently murdering a child with a pretext. Also the child has been rendered physically and mentally disabled by the boxer’s previous activity. Also the boxer locks the child up and deprives it of food and water and shelter.
Not all that comparable
It’s not a war because Israel doesn’t acknowledge it as a war. If it were a war, they would be treating Hamas as an actual military and be following the Geneva convention. Israel does not treat the thousands of Gazan hostages it’s abducted, who it nominally labels as “Hamas,” anything like what is required by the Geneva convention.
It’s not a war because Israel has chosen not to treat it like a war.
There is no thing forcing you to adhere to international law. You don’t have to follow Geneva Convention. You might be executed for it if caught outside of your country or if another country seems to stop you, but there is no compulsion there.
So your defense of Israel is that “well aktually the laws of war don’t technically apply to them!”
Fuck off with this genocide apologia. If you need to split hairs on the technical definition of the laws of war, you’re obviously doing something indefensible. Only Nazi trash feels the need to equivocate on something as unforgivable as genocide and war crimes.
Seriously, you need a therapist or a priest. Your soul is clearly broken.
Most of the people in Gaza are not attempting to fight back, they’re just getting killed. It’s little kids and families, mostly. I think Hamas at the start of the “war” was about 45k people… they’ve killed several times that number of Palestinians at this point. They’re just blowing up apartment buildings, hospitals, and universities. Gaza City was the last place that had any kind of real civilian life, and they’re rolling into it now (and still not allowing food, people are starving in the streets).
This is a “war” like Ted Bundy was fighting in a “war.”
No amount of human suffering can change that it is a war. Hamas is unable to peace out because, well, why would Israel stop when they could continue. I am not saying that there is a lot of actual fighting. This is about words.
I am not saying that there is a lot of actual fighting.
Yes, glad we agree. There is not “fighting” between Israeli airstrikes, tanks, and coordinated infantry, and Palestinian families and occasional small arms by any Hamas people or irregulars still left alive. There is however quite a lot of dying. That was my point.
It’s a shame some people still call that genocide a “war”.
It is. How is that bad? A country is doing stuff in another with military force without consent. That’s war. (If prolonged)
If I pulled a gun and killed an unarmed person, would you call that a fight?
If the united states randomly decided to hit every square kilometer of Liechtenstein with its own hydrogen bomb in the middle of the night, would you call that a war?
No, but a shooting.
No. One country, backed by all the money and weapons of the west, was given land that was stolen from palestine in 1948, then they proceeded to slowly eradicate and remove the palestinian population. Just look at maps of palestine from 1948 to today, and watch the genocides progression.
There was an international arms embargo by the USA and the UN on Israel/Palestine in 1947-48.
The Zionists bought and smuggled in surplus WW2 weapons from Czechoslovakia during that time. The Soviet Union helped the Zionists, which were dominated by socialists at the time in the hopes of gaining an ally.
https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/55228/why-did-the-u-s-place-an-arms-embargo-on-all-belligerents-in-the-1948-arab-isra
Between 1948 and 1967 there was no slow removal of Palestinian Arabs. Almost all of it was quite sudden in 1948. Keep in mind that Jewish Palestinians were expelled from the Jordan occupied West Bank and half of Jerusalem. Gaza was occupied by Egypt and Jews were expelled. Arab and Muslim countries persecuted and expelled their Jewish population after 1948, resulting in 800,000 to a millions Jews fleeing, many to Israel.
There was an international arms embargo by the USA and the UN on Israel/Palestine in 1947-48.
The Zionists bought and smuggled in surplus WW2 weapons from Czechoslovakia during that time.
It’s bad because it suggests two matched belligerents. It’s like the difference between a boxing match with a skill gap, and a boxer violently murdering a child with a pretext. Also the child has been rendered physically and mentally disabled by the boxer’s previous activity. Also the boxer locks the child up and deprives it of food and water and shelter.
Not all that comparable
No it doesn’t suggest matched belligerents. Real life ain’t no sport. Falkland war is also called that.
It’s not a war because Israel doesn’t acknowledge it as a war. If it were a war, they would be treating Hamas as an actual military and be following the Geneva convention. Israel does not treat the thousands of Gazan hostages it’s abducted, who it nominally labels as “Hamas,” anything like what is required by the Geneva convention.
It’s not a war because Israel has chosen not to treat it like a war.
There is no thing forcing you to adhere to international law. You don’t have to follow Geneva Convention. You might be executed for it if caught outside of your country or if another country seems to stop you, but there is no compulsion there.
So your defense of Israel is that “well aktually the laws of war don’t technically apply to them!”
Fuck off with this genocide apologia. If you need to split hairs on the technical definition of the laws of war, you’re obviously doing something indefensible. Only Nazi trash feels the need to equivocate on something as unforgivable as genocide and war crimes.
Seriously, you need a therapist or a priest. Your soul is clearly broken.
Most of the people in Gaza are not attempting to fight back, they’re just getting killed. It’s little kids and families, mostly. I think Hamas at the start of the “war” was about 45k people… they’ve killed several times that number of Palestinians at this point. They’re just blowing up apartment buildings, hospitals, and universities. Gaza City was the last place that had any kind of real civilian life, and they’re rolling into it now (and still not allowing food, people are starving in the streets).
This is a “war” like Ted Bundy was fighting in a “war.”
No amount of human suffering can change that it is a war. Hamas is unable to peace out because, well, why would Israel stop when they could continue. I am not saying that there is a lot of actual fighting. This is about words.
Yes, glad we agree. There is not “fighting” between Israeli airstrikes, tanks, and coordinated infantry, and Palestinian families and occasional small arms by any Hamas people or irregulars still left alive. There is however quite a lot of dying. That was my point.
Falklands war was a boxing match with a skill gap, in my analogy.