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silence7@slrpnk.net to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 21 hours ago

Airlines Sell 5 Billion Plane Ticket Records to the US Government For Warrantless Searching

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Airlines Sell 5 Billion Plane Ticket Records to the US Government For Warrantless Searching

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silence7@slrpnk.net to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 21 hours ago
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Airlines Sell 5 Billion Plane Ticket Records to the Government For Warrantless Searching
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New documents obtained by 404 Media show how a data broker owned by American Airlines, United, Delta, and many other airlines is selling masses of passenger data to the U.S. government.
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  • GreenShimada@lemmy.world
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    Hey y’all - it’s time to learn how to protect your online privacy. This is a perfect example of why “but I have nothing to hide” only enables a surveillance police state.

    https://lemmy.ml/c/privacy

    https://lemmy.world/c/privacy

    • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
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      With Flock and the airline data sales, its very difficult to protect offline privacy

      • GreenShimada@lemmy.world
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        If those are the only two you know about, have I got news for you:

        https://www.wired.com/story/phone-data-us-soldiers-spies-nuclear-germany/

        https://www.wired.com/story/how-pentagon-learned-targeted-ads-to-find-targets-and-vladimir-putin/

        https://www.wired.com/story/pentagon-data-purchases-wyden-letter/

        https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/how-federal-government-buys-our-cell-phone-location-data

        https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/federal-agencies-are-secretly-buying-consumer-data

      • paraphrand@lemmy.world
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        It just occurred to me that public transportation could be advocated for under the idea that it helps the government track people.

        That’s a depressing idea.

        • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
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          Pretty much anything more complex than a bicycle has that effect

          • paraphrand@lemmy.world
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            I now have two big reasons to invest in a bike. 🤔

            • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
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              I strongly recommend getting a fitting and spending some time riding with a local club. The former makes sure you’re comfortable, the latter can familiarize you with riding on roads and get you into better shape

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    The only surprise here is that they’re selling it. I thought the government just had access to that info through some FAA regulation or something.

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      Third party doctrine. They can buy it without a warrant and buy up all of it at once and do whatever they want with the data. None of it covered by the 4th Amendment.

      To use warrant access and get it for free, they need a judge and have to go individual-by-individual citing specific names.

      Same reason why the government just buys advertising data now to find out what people are doing online, rather than going the full legal route.

      • paraphrand@lemmy.world
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        This loophole needs to be closed.

      • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
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        Ah, that actually makes a lot of sense. I mean it’s dumb, but it makes sense.

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        Same reason why the government just buys advertising data now to find out what people are doing online, rather than going the full legal route.

        Tbf, this is legal. Just unethical af.

        It goes to show that when you compare the rights of millions of people verses a company making a quick buck, capitalism will win every time.

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      They probably did, but the poor airlines were missing out on that extra revenue.

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    I mean we all already assumed the government was tracking us all anyway. Surprised they don’t just subcontract out mass surveillance to Palantir at this point, Peter Thiel clearly needs the money

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      It isn’t great that we make these assumptions and make comments that say just “duh, we know.” When news is posted about the situation.

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        Even democrats (let’s be honest they’re the Conservative Party, republicans are now just plain fascist) have acted to preserve our surveillance state, and nobody has done jack shit about Meta and Google and Amazon cataloging every aspect of our lives. At this point the only chance for privacy is to move to an underdeveloped country and get a dumb phone, or move to Europe where for the moment they still have some privacy laws. Without a literal revolution none of that will change in the US.

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          its a uniparty, a coalition party at best. which is why you have no issues passing defense budget, and pro-israeli agendas.

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    https://web.archive.org/web/20250915135020/https://www.404media.co/airlines-sell-5-billion-plane-ticket-records-to-the-government-for-warrantless-searching/

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    We are all already tracked and traced 24/7. Nothing surprising here. It’s been a police state since the late 2000’s.

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      You misspelled “early”

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