he called his dad and confessed. his dad advised him to turn himself in. he said he’d rather commit suicide. his dad called his youth pastor to talk him down, who called the US marshals to secure him. I feel bad for the dad… that’s got to be a genuinely horrible situation to navigate.
Not the dude in the Bible, because the things he’s supposed to have done are impossible. So probably there was some dude that did or said some things and then got a bunch of folklore attached to him. A certain amount of the jesus story comes from contemporaneous myths - IIRC, a virgin birth was a common one.
So probably there was some dude that did or said some things and then got a bunch of folklore attached to him.
Yeah. Likely Osiris. Almost all of the Jesus stories are taken from earlier solar deity “myths” and put into 1CE Judea. Like a graduate school production of Richard III in space with cigarettes.
Jesus wouldn’t narc on you, but he might tell you to surrender yourself to police. no murder is one of the Ten Commandments. this is how Catholic confession works, at least (I am not Catholic.)
I suspect the kid consented to the pastor calling the marshals, after deciding to turn himself in. otherwise how would they know where to find him that quickly?
Genuinely, WWJD is an interesting thought exercise here.
Without really digging for it, my first guess would be “repent and sin no more.” I imagine less turning oneself in to the cops, and more directly asking forgiveness of the ones you wronged. There wouldn’t really be a “setting it right” for such an act though.
That’s where I can’t imagine where things would really go. The feebs would definitely involve themselves anyway, even on the razor slim chance the aggrieved did not.
As much as we very much disagreed (to put it gently) with this hateful brainwashing crusade and are maybe glad to be rid of a prominent source of it, it is still not the way of Christ to be another’s executioner.
I’ll be honest, I’m struggling here. On one hand Kirk was causing a lot of harm through pursuading the worst sides of people under the guise of “logic.” His individual capacity for further harm has been neutralized (“martyr” narrative aside), and that feels like a positive.
But in the end, I don’t want to celebrate murder. I wish it never came to this and people had enough sense to have just ignored him entirely. The fact that so many people find this ideology appealing and we’ve gotten this deep demonstrates a moral decay of our civilization, and in the end he was slain by the monster he and his ilk helped to unleash on us all.
Heh sorry for the rant as a reply. Just thinking out loud I guess.
I’m Catholic. When I was a kid I had to go to confessional and like most Catholic kids we just made shit up cause I mean come on, no kid is keeping tally of all the stuff they’ve done. So we’d just lie to the priest and try to one up each other with “stuff we did”. The priest never told our parents or teachers.
I’m not Catholic, but the confession is one of those things that, if done right, might actually be very valuable. The ability to talk to someone about the bad stuff you did, get it off your chest, get some sort of closure so you can let it go, without any risk of getting ratted out to the authorities, could be very good for your mental health, I imagine.
And if everybody does it, there’s no stigma attached to it. So if you go and have nothing to say, you go to cover for the people who do have something.
Though modern therapy can serve the same role, of course.
he called his dad and confessed. his dad advised him to turn himself in. he said he’d rather commit suicide. his dad called his youth pastor to talk him down, who called the US marshals to secure him. I feel bad for the dad… that’s got to be a genuinely horrible situation to navigate.
Youth pastor calling the marshals man. Cold.
Would Jesus narc on you? Friend, he would not. Mostly because he didn’t exist but still. As a character that is not consistent.
Jesus did actually exist. He was like a guy that was really there at some point
[citation needed]
Not the dude in the Bible, because the things he’s supposed to have done are impossible. So probably there was some dude that did or said some things and then got a bunch of folklore attached to him. A certain amount of the jesus story comes from contemporaneous myths - IIRC, a virgin birth was a common one.
Yeah. Likely Osiris. Almost all of the Jesus stories are taken from earlier solar deity “myths” and put into 1CE Judea. Like a graduate school production of Richard III in space with cigarettes.
that’s certainly a take that most secular scholars of early christianity would disagree with but do you
True, true. However scholars of Christianity kind of have a bias there, dunnthey.
FTFY
So does the youth pastor get the reward tax free?
I didn’t even consider the reward. I wonder if the dad will get it.
“How’d you get rich”. I raised my son wrong
Jesus wouldn’t narc on you, but he might tell you to surrender yourself to police. no murder is one of the Ten Commandments. this is how Catholic confession works, at least (I am not Catholic.)
I suspect the kid consented to the pastor calling the marshals, after deciding to turn himself in. otherwise how would they know where to find him that quickly?
Genuinely, WWJD is an interesting thought exercise here.
Without really digging for it, my first guess would be “repent and sin no more.” I imagine less turning oneself in to the cops, and more directly asking forgiveness of the ones you wronged. There wouldn’t really be a “setting it right” for such an act though.
That’s where I can’t imagine where things would really go. The feebs would definitely involve themselves anyway, even on the razor slim chance the aggrieved did not.
As much as we very much disagreed (to put it gently) with this hateful brainwashing crusade and are maybe glad to be rid of a prominent source of it, it is still not the way of Christ to be another’s executioner.
I’ll be honest, I’m struggling here. On one hand Kirk was causing a lot of harm through pursuading the worst sides of people under the guise of “logic.” His individual capacity for further harm has been neutralized (“martyr” narrative aside), and that feels like a positive.
But in the end, I don’t want to celebrate murder. I wish it never came to this and people had enough sense to have just ignored him entirely. The fact that so many people find this ideology appealing and we’ve gotten this deep demonstrates a moral decay of our civilization, and in the end he was slain by the monster he and his ilk helped to unleash on us all.
Heh sorry for the rant as a reply. Just thinking out loud I guess.
I’m Catholic. When I was a kid I had to go to confessional and like most Catholic kids we just made shit up cause I mean come on, no kid is keeping tally of all the stuff they’ve done. So we’d just lie to the priest and try to one up each other with “stuff we did”. The priest never told our parents or teachers.
And it was always “three Hail Marys and a Glory Be” and you’re golden. What a weird ritual.
I’m not Catholic, but the confession is one of those things that, if done right, might actually be very valuable. The ability to talk to someone about the bad stuff you did, get it off your chest, get some sort of closure so you can let it go, without any risk of getting ratted out to the authorities, could be very good for your mental health, I imagine.
And if everybody does it, there’s no stigma attached to it. So if you go and have nothing to say, you go to cover for the people who do have something.
Though modern therapy can serve the same role, of course.
From the pastor calling them in hushed tones from the back room?
I dunno. Agree its a terrible situation.