• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    14 hours ago

    Soooooo

    I want to get rid of my Spotify because the apps suck baaaadly. However, I have about 6000 something liked songs

    How would I go about getting those off of Spotify and do some self hosting?

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      So if I’m not mistaken the route I took was to import my Spotify library to Lidarr > Let it freely torrent/download in the background (this can take a long time especially if what you’re torrenting isn’t very popular!) > setup the Spotify Import plugin for Jellyfin and let that automatically make your playlist an such however, in my experience this worked well for maybe 40% of my playlists (roughly 800 rap songs + 200 rock/metal) and the rest I downloaded with ytdlp and manually added in to my library, which sucked because it was so tedious but once I got it done I never had to do it again.

      I got about 15k songs in my library all together but only listen to my playlists.

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      14 hours ago

      Go into your Spotify settings and request data. You’ll be able to download all the info from your account including playlists. That’s your first step. Now find your files. Go from there

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      13 hours ago

      I’m on the path to better systems than this, but as I’m too time poor, I gotta go with apps, and I just thought you might like to know I had as many songs in my Spotify Playlists and ported them over to Qobuz in seconds, if you want something quick for now. Qobuz talks you through it.

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      23 hours ago

      I’m going to try this. For what ever reason I can’t use music files for Jellyfin and I basically gave up on it.

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        17 hours ago

        What kind of issues are you experiencing with Jellyfin? It has worked perfectly for me, but I see the sentiment repeated many times so I guess it’s not that uncommon to experience issues. I run it via Docker, mount volumes like I do with other media types, and add properly tagged music in an Artist/Album directory hierarchy. No special tweaking.

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        22 hours ago

        Jellyfin sucks for music streaming. It is also very picky with file permissions.

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          Have zero problems with Jellyfin as the Server, Symfonium as the client on mobile / music assistant for streaming to sonos at home

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              19 hours ago

              Sorry, but the person above made a blanket statement that Jellyfin sucks for music streaming.

              Alas, it does not; example: me, guffaw

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                19 hours ago

                It’s true, you’ve changed my opinion! All those people upvoting the other post and not yours must be misclicking! It’s a shame the brightest of us will never burn at dinner time…

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          18 hours ago

          Thanks for confirming. Felt like I was doing too much work to get it to not work.

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      22 hours ago

      Does it have a phone app that also lets you search for and add new music on the go? I’m trying to get my wife off Spot but she refuses without this ability.

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        21 hours ago

        Unfortunately, no. You can’t add music through any apps or the web UI. To add music, you have to add files into a folder. And due to security reasons, Navidrome accesses that folder as read-only and therefore can’t write anything to it.

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          19 hours ago

          It’s wild to me that Soulseek persists despite being entirely mediated by a single central server. I would have thought it would have gotten the takedown long ago.

          Also the fact that it doesn’t swarm, only does one to one peer sharing is kind of odd to me, but I guess it actually makes some sense in that it constrains the network to being more optimal for smaller files like music and so keeps video off of the platform for the most part.

          Worth noting that the Soulseek Wikipedia page lists a bunch of clients you can use, including Seeker for Android and others for all platforms including Linux

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            Yeah, there are a fair number of nice clients, slskd is just designed to fit into an existing automation flow, and can be accessed through a web browser (though of course you should always practice proper security and avoid exposing it to the web directly).

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    23 hours ago

    Had never heard of ReVanced before this looks amazing. I was just browsing their list of patches and there are some really great ones. Def gonna start using this. So thanks for sharing the link

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      17 hours ago

      Wow thanks, I was looking exactly for that ! I have youtube music subscription actually but I just don’t want any of google’s shit on my phone

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        If you have a YTM subscription, it does not make sense to play in Outer tune. Any YTM Streaming client streams in 128 kbps whilst YTM Premium streams at 256 kbps when set at High.

        One can download songs at 256 kbps though if they have YTM Premium via yt-dlp using setcookiesoption. This is useful if someone has large custom playlists where searching via Soulseek is a chore.

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      12 hours ago

      Yeah; that’s not much time, and I’m not a lawyer, but this seems a complicated legal question. I just assumed any tool that circumvents any sort of digital lock would be hosting in countries that DGAF about US laws. Even better if they have a .onion address to avoid any network blocking attempts, like z-library.

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    24 hours ago

    I don’t know about everyone else, but patched Spotify stopped working months ago for me so this isn’t a loss for me personally, but still, fuck Spotify

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      24 hours ago

      spotify has always been shitty tbh; given the choice between spotify and nothing, you’re better off with nothing

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        8 hours ago

        YT Music is already under fire (been under it tbh), they’ve definitely been blocking any patches, cause YT music broke about 3 weeks ago and I still can’t get it to work.

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    I wouldn’t expect Spotify to just let people use premium services for free. Fuck Spotify, right there with y’all on that, but this isn’t egregious or unethical behavior for them.

    Use Spotify since it has a free tier, for music discovery if you like, but get FLACs and self host. I like Plex for that and it works with what I use.

    Music is actually one thing I will always pay for. I use Apple Music because they pay artists more and they offer better quality. And they don’t care, if you’re on a family plan, if not all your family lives with you. I also self host because backups are nice and I can’t access Apple Music at work. I can, however, access Plex. (It’s not that Apple is blocked. It’s that Apple requires 2FA and I can’t bring my iPhone into work.) But, point is either way, self host and stream everywhere. Sucks that Plex went up; I got Lifetime for $80 years ago. (Now it’s $250.)

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      Except that ReVanced is not distributing anything of Spotify’s (to my knowledge). By patching Spotify’s app on the user device instead of providing downloads to pre-patched apps, the only thing ReVanced is providing is their own code. The reason they use a patcher system is exactly to avoid frivilous abuses of DMCA such as this. They are not infringing Spotify’s copyright in any way.

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        By patching Spotify’s app on the user device instead of providing downloads to pre-patched apps

        Android’s sideloading changes were done to end this, you cannot change my mind.

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        I’ll just refer you to what I said to the other guy. So if you see this, you should be able to click through to the thread, see what I said to the other guy, and read my reasoning there. No need to split the argument/debate into two threads.

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          Fair enough. I actually posted my own comment after I downvoted Arcane’s due to their overly agressive and absolutist tone. It’s hard to have a discussion when personal attacks are in every reply.

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      15 hours ago

      Music is actually one thing I will always pay for. I use Apple Music because they pay artists more and they offer better quality.

      If paying artists and hi-res audio are your primary metrics, why not Tidal or Qobuz?

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        That’s a good point. But the issue is, it’s always going to be a moving target. Every year I could reassess the streaming services and quit the one I’m on and go with the one that best meets my needs each year. And each year it could be a different one. Ethically, that would be the superior option. But, I’m not perfect, I’m barely ideal, and I use a family plan to help justify my cost. Sure, I pay more, but I also get my wife and a couple other family members the gift of perpetual music as well.

        So if every year, or every, however often, I were to reassess, and drop one service, and start another one and ask them to dump the app and get a new app and let me add them on that, all of us are losing our entire library every time we switch across. It’s a lot of work. Sure, there are tools to convert your stuff over, but it’s still a bit of work.

        At this point it’s not about who’s the actual absolute best at the things that matter the most, at this point it’s just which one’s good enough for our needs. Also Apple is one of the few streaming services that doesn’t give a hoot if your family all lives with you. We had Spotify before and at that point — this was years ago — you had to retype the address every month, and if, say, my niece mistyped it, she’d lose access to her premium benefits for a month. At one point I just sent her an email with the exact text to copy and it was fine, but like if she accidentally left a space at the end or something, if the text didn’t match 100%, it was this whole thing — and of course I wasn’t compensated for a family member being denied their benefit for the month. Apple does not care. You add the person and they get the benefit without ever having to physically be at that address. I just hope that doesn’t change.

        (Also, I think Napster pays artists the most now, ironically?)

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          I appreciate your candour and time given to the response. The (superior) alternatives in respect to the given objectives were given as these were also concerns shared by me and at the time of my personal search they were the top contenders. Napster I recall eliminating early due to bountiful issues and subpar features, however I admit their state in 2025 is unknown to me.

          At day’s end, the goal of the ideal is never summited by the well-worn path of least resistance. Our thoughts whisper “at least it’s better than XYZ” so that our conscience, though we know it a lie, is lightened. But I’m blathering on the piracy Lemmy so I can be ignored.

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      nah fuck them; they pay their artists squat but pay millions to white supremacist conspiracy theorist podcasters

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        Yeah, they write smaller checks than Spotify. Spotify has more subscribers. But Apple pays more per stream.

        Spotify sponsors Joe Rogan, and Apple’s CEO sucks up to Trump. There are no winners here with regards to politics.

        Some say you can’t separate music from politicians, and I suppose that’s fair. I still pay for music, and if my same ten bucks a month or whatever it is now is gonna go in some small part to some bad fuckers, if more goes to the artists with one than the other, I can consider that the lesser of two evils.

        Though you’re not gonna hurt Apple and their Trump boot licking by not paying for their music streaming. Nah, you do that by only buying the phone you need, when you need it, not a new one every year like some people like to do. You can only hurt Spotify by not buying Spotify Premium. I like my iPhone okay, but it wasn’t as big of an upgrade as the last one, and my next smartphone probably won’t be an iPhone at all. Though I won’t need to make that decision for another five or six years.

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        They also randomly delete albums and state increased playcount by AI as the reason for removal, and they also allow random dudes publishing remixes on your own artist profile, because there are no checks in place. You can just fill out the artist name in a text field and publish a song:

        The artist KARRA recently made a video about it which went viral.
        (She also made this meme release up top to prove how broken the system is.)

        So fuck Spotify in every way you can. They don’t deserve the money, since they’re clearly doing nothing for the artists with it.

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      If taking down other peoples’ work on fake and easily abusable DMCA grounds “isn’t egregious or unethical behavior”, your opinion worth less than the dogshit it was written in

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        Okay, so aside from the fact that you’re stalking me across communities for whatever reason — if I write a loophole in your employer’s code, like a patch, that keeps them from having to pay you, and they like not having to pay you, I haven’t done anything egregious or unethical? Or it’s only egregious or unethical because it’s happening to a company you don’t like?

        If the law doesn’t apply without prejudice blindly and equally for all, what good is it? And who decides who is deserving? Some pathetic Internet stalker? So given your lack of ethics, would you then agree it would be fair to take your wages as well? Or do you draw the line between companies and people, or how much someone makes? Because we might find some common ground there. But on the surface, it appears you are the one throwing dog shit from that which is covering you.

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            And yet, you posted two comments to me, on two different communities, on two different instances, completely hostile in both of them.

            You should get help. I can only imagine what you’re like in real life. Either you’re very meek when you’re not behind a keyboard, people walk all over you so you bully people online, or you’re exactly the same in real life and you hurt people around you. Maybe that’s not the kind of person you want to be, either way. If I’m wrong and it is, nothing I say will convince you otherwise. But on the off chance there’s any decency in you, take your own advice and talk to somebody.

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          if I write a loophole in your employer’s code, like a patch, that keeps them from having to pay you, and they like not having to pay you, I haven’t done anything egregious or unethical?

          I don’t really care about the ethics in the Revanced situation nor the greater adblocking scene. That’s a moral question for individuals to answer. From a legal perspective, I don’t agree with the removal of original code. While I don’t know of a legal precedent for the digital age, the closest physical comparison I can make is to the distribution of a lock-pick or a gun. And we don’t prosecute lock-pick manufacturers for selling to a thief, we prosecute the thief for breaking into someone’s home with it. Exempting cases where the actual product is illegal, such as specific gun models, but as far as I am aware there is no such law against any software (yet). Even if there were, I doubt it would all under the perview of DMCA. Thus my reasoning for saying this is an abuse of DMCA and my reason for distaste towards the situation.

          Bringing this back to your original comment:

          I wouldn’t expect Spotify to just let people use premium services for free. Fuck Spotify, right there with y’all on that, but this isn’t egregious or unethical behavior for them.

          I wouldn’t expect them to either! But I also don’t expect them to try and take down material they have no right to take down and I would consider that to be a bit ‘egregious’.

          Edit: You know, I should have actually done the research before commenting. Anyway, I looked further into DMCA intent and it covers some circumvention tools which may(?) apply to adblockers, although I haven’t heard of that being tested in court before. Leaving my comment here since it’s already federated anyway.