The new president of South Korea, Lee Jae Myung, and Japanese Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba have tried to leave old feuds behind and look to the future at a Tokyo summit.
I suspect what we’ll see is an anti China alliance between Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, and Vietnam as Chinese influence grows. Probably won’t be something official like NATO but it does seem to be in their strategic interest to make this happen. Especially now that US support is iffy.
And my understanding is that the current generations have less animosity.
For Vietnam, fighting the west was just business, fighting the Chinese is tradition. They’ve been at it since before anyone in Europe crawled out of their caves.
As a Vietnamese, our government goes with a policy that is flexible, so we don’t really align with one side. China just happens to be on the border and is super powerful so the government decides that cooperating is a beneficial thing to do for our economy. Asides from that, fuck em, every single Vietnamese person don’t have a positive view about the fucking PRC and their doings in the region.
If you mean something that would be called a war then the last one was in 1979. I heard from some on the internet who had people from their family deployed that there were still smaller conflicts in the 80s.
The territorial disputes in the recent 20 years were worse than you think, soldiers died, fishing ships were sank and there were protests. However, the Vietnamese government kept it down to not lose on the economic front. The past 2-3 years the government got on better terms with other sides and got more aggressive when it comes to the islands lol.
For the alliance, I think we have a policy in national defense that says we won’t be in any military organization, so nope. There might be others that are related to economy and security which tends to be against China’s wrongdoings though.
I suspect what we’ll see is an anti China alliance between Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, and Vietnam as Chinese influence grows. Probably won’t be something official like NATO but it does seem to be in their strategic interest to make this happen. Especially now that US support is iffy.
And my understanding is that the current generations have less animosity.
yes except vietnam seems to be aligning somewhat with china, no?
For Vietnam, fighting the west was just business, fighting the Chinese is tradition. They’ve been at it since before anyone in Europe crawled out of their caves.
vietnam was scorched earth razed by the us. that wasn’t “just business” at all.
they haven’t actually fought china for many decades, and have been talking a lot of big deals lately.
There are some islands that are contested between them, but not sure where they stand right now.
As a Vietnamese, our government goes with a policy that is flexible, so we don’t really align with one side. China just happens to be on the border and is super powerful so the government decides that cooperating is a beneficial thing to do for our economy. Asides from that, fuck em, every single Vietnamese person don’t have a positive view about the fucking PRC and their doings in the region.
if i recall correctly you haven’t been on conflict with china for decades though, right? that’s despite some territorial disputes.
do you think vietnam would realistically be on an official anti-china alliance?
If you mean something that would be called a war then the last one was in 1979. I heard from some on the internet who had people from their family deployed that there were still smaller conflicts in the 80s.
The territorial disputes in the recent 20 years were worse than you think, soldiers died, fishing ships were sank and there were protests. However, the Vietnamese government kept it down to not lose on the economic front. The past 2-3 years the government got on better terms with other sides and got more aggressive when it comes to the islands lol.
For the alliance, I think we have a policy in national defense that says we won’t be in any military organization, so nope. There might be others that are related to economy and security which tends to be against China’s wrongdoings though.
could you elaborate? or is there a link for this?
i mentioned in the other thread they are expanding deals with china in the face of us tariffs