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In the latest fight to expose the yawning chasm between Democratic Party members and their leaders on Israel, the Democratic National Committee on Thursday shot down symbolic resolutions targeting AIPAC and arms transfers to Israel.
Members of a resolutions committee meeting in New Orleans rejected one symbolic resolution that would have condemned AIPAC’s role in party primaries and tabled a pair of resolutions that called for conditioning military aid to Israel.
Polls show that Democratic Party members are increasingly skeptical of Israel and supportive of Palestinians — a shift that hasn’t been reflected in the party’s official position.
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Instead, party leaders rejected the AIPAC resolution and referred the hot-button issue of arms transfers to Israel to a task force created by DNC Chair Ken Martin, which has yet to produce concrete results since it was created in August.
Allison Minnerly, the DNC member from Florida who sponsored the AIPAC resolution, said the votes exposed serious shortcomings on the part of leadership.
“It says that the Democratic Party just isn’t willing to have a hard conversation, isn’t willing to stand up, and just misses the mark when voters need it the most,” she said. “It is an embarrassing display of cowardice.”
The DNC member chairing the meeting, Ron Harris, said the arms transfers resolutions would be better handled by the task force, whose work he defended.
“Just for the record, this isn’t one of those things where you kick it down the line, and a committee where things go to die. These are people working really hard over a very thorny issue, and taking the time that it takes,” he said.
The proposals before the DNC committee on Thursday once again put party leaders in the hot spot after an earlier resolution from Minnerly last August called for a ban on arms sales to Israel.
Minnerly’s latest resolution highlighted the millions of dollars AIPAC spent to influence recent Democratic primaries in Illinois before reaffirming the party’s commitment to “reducing the role of corporate money and large-scale outside spending in Democratic primaries and general elections.”
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AIPAC in recent years has dumped tens of millions of dollars into Democratic primaries via a super PAC called the United Democracy Fund. It has taken an increasingly aggressive stance against anyone who questions U.S. support for Israel — including one pro-Israel congressional candidate who said he was open to conditioning military aid on respect for human rights.
The group’s heavy-handed role in recent Illinois campaigns drew fire from Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Evanston Mayor Daniel Biss, who blasted AIPAC when he won the Democratic Party primary for the 9th Congressional District.
In response to the growing backlash, AIPAC’s supporters have called its critics “antisemitic,” a charge echoed during the Thursday meeting when one member said that to single out AIPAC would be to “pick on the Jews.”
Separately, another resolution called for pausing weapons transfers to Israeli military units accused of human rights violations and recognizing Palestinian statehood, and a third called for conditioning military aid to Israel in compliance with international law in light of the U.S.–Israeli war on Iran.
Those resolutions were referred to the task force.
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It’s always so frustrating, this looping trend I notice with the DNC:
Citizens: “This is what we want and why we want it and who we want to represent us for it.”
Party: “Lol. No. Lmao.”
Citizens: “Why the heck should we bother voting for you then?”
Party: “… We’re not those guys. Lmao. Where else you gonna go? Got trillions in election funds to start a formidable third party and buy all the media? ROFL.”
Citizens: " “Whatever, we’d at least like this pro-citizen candidate then.”
Party: “That’s great but we already picked for you, behold, Milquetoast Weenie McStatusQuo the XXIII. Capable of swaying no one, standing for nothing in particular, and cozying up in bed with mega corporations and banks. <3”
Tell me how different the Democrats are from the Republicans again Neo-liberals.
How dare you?! Under my false dichotomy, a comparatively small amount of harm would be prevented over the short term. It doesn’t matter about long term outcomes because I decided. I shall end with an ad-hominem attack and if you make me confront the reality of my position I will block you because that makes me uncomfortable. Don’t you even dare think about making any analogies or comparing to any historical examples of persecution. That is deeply offensive when it contradicts my pre-existing beliefs.
“Decorum”.
They think drinking hemlock is the mark of civilized society.
I wonder how are they going to “harm reduction” their way out of this one. Corrupt lapdog cunts.
So while the Republicans are planning to steal the next election the Democrats can’t unify for shit.
Edit: step -> steal, with -> for
Mainstream democrats are far more interested in securing donations from lobbies, corporations and the wealthy than they are with preventing fascism and genocide. Electoral politics doesn’t seem to be a solution. We need to consider other options.
This is why lifelong Democrats like myself are Independent now.
I totally understand how you feel, but don’t you feel like remaining a democrat but getting more engaged in primaries might be worthwhile?
Worthwhile sure, but Bernie lost twice because the DNC spent their entire budget ensuring their selected candidate wins instead.
Of course one shouldn’t give up hope, but I am 100% expecting the same to happen in 2028 and we get a Newsom ticket.
Bernie is a Zionist, he’s all talk about Israeli crimes, but votes to fund them consistently under the “self defense” argument.
I expect it too and they are going to lose a lot of people when they do. He is the same candidate that they have run since 2016. No one wants that slime ball but they love him.
Yeah. I totally get it. I’m holding out hope, but we definitely need to work on alternatives rather than just hoping for the best.
Fuck Israel
“In response to the growing backlash, AIPAC’s supporters have called its critics “antisemitic””
These guys could really use some new material.
Would be nice to have an anti-genocide party. Fuck the DNC.
Go ahead! Throw your vote away!
Wow. Y’all are thick.
“go ahead, don’t vote for genocide”
Okay.
This mentality keeps us in the same place. I’m getting old and this continues to move us further into Nazi land we need to unite against Israel and start arresting Israeli backed politicians for treason
How many times have you voted for something other than Kang or Kodos?
Its a reference, but don’t blame me I voted for Kodos.
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That episode demonstrates not that the Simpsons is prophetic, as some like to claim, but for how long the two-party system and electoral politics has failed to produce not solutions to the problems we face.
It’s tempting to feel next election will be different, but it probably won’t be. We need to force the system to change, outside of electoral politics, or be trapped forever in this endless cycle.
Yes, it was a simple observation and poking fun of a broken system. It is frustrating watching the states from the outside covering for the same excuses over and over however. It is telling that we can point to an episode from 1996 today. In 30 years nothing has challenged the two party mess of a system.
I would say it isn’t broken, but working exactly as intended
Yeah, maybe. But it is not a democracy, and I am sick of hearing it described as one.
If my choices were between fascists and fascism enablers I would also throw my vote away. Because what’s the fucking point of choosing between fascism now or fascism later?
The more time you have to prepare to fight fascism the better. The point is to never give them anything for free. Especially when it costs you nothing. The more ground we deny to the fascists gives more room for resistance to grow.
While you are “preparing” (aka doing nothing at all) people are dying with bombs we are buying. Better to let the system die now rather than limp it along in its genocidal state.
In theory sure. In practice nothing was done to prevent fascism between 2020 and 2024. If anything, fascists were given time to regroup and plan a better takeover. I’d even argue the resistance has grown more under fascism than when it was time to prevent fascism. There’s no point in pushing it forward when that time is not actually spent on preparing and the democratic party definitely isn’t spending that time preparing and unless you’re in the process of forming a third party you’re not preparing either, because the only thing that gets America out of the fascist hole is an anti-establishment party that refuses to be fascist nor pave the way for fascism.
If you are voting for fascism enablers and fascism lite, you arent preparing to fight at all. You are giving up and acting like you are better than others. It’s all fascism and none of it should be supported in the LEAST.
We’re not going to be free until we cut Israel loose.
Remember there names when it’s time for them to beg for our vote.
*their
I dont know which is more disgusting: the supremacist genocidal zionists, or the traitors in both political parties who whore all of America out to participate in the genocide for a little bit of bribe money.
But both groups need to go.
It’s more like protection payments, they are afraid of getting primaried by the next douchbag who accepts backing by APAIC.
- They are publicly claim in this was because there is a similar, broader resolution which condemns accepting campaign donations from all groups of this sort as well as corporate donations.
- Rumour is that Gavin Newsom personally opposed this and whipped the “nay” vote.
Do with this information as you will.
It wasn’t even a binding resolution, it was just a communication thing. The DNC could have chosen to distance themselves from AIPAC with no real harm and also supported the broader resolution, but chose not to do that.
The DNC are completely infiltrated at this point. Purging the party from all of the corrupt blue fascists is going to be a lot of work, but it needs to get done.
Organize, protest and elect. Emphasis on organize and protest.
- Get as involved as you can with activist efforts locally.
- Organize, network, focus on building solidarity. Join or form a union. Join the IWW.
- Vote at primaries and elections for the best candidate, even if you doubt they can win.
- Don’t punch down.
- Don’t punch left.
- Educate yourself, politically.
- Push for voting reform and for anything that breaks the two-party system.
We could just all walk across the street and take over the Green Party. They’re tiny and have tiny primaries.
And they actually have primaries.
There’s so much work involved with breaking the two-party system, too, but that’s absolutely another path that could be taken. Another path would be to build a popular movement outside of electoral politics altogether. To succeed, all available paths should be pursued, each of them can help shift the needle in the appropriate direction.
First step might be not breaking the system but kicking out one of the parties and go with a better one. And then change the system.
You mean, like, replace one of the two main parties with a third party? e.g. substituting the Democrats with the Greens or something along those lines?
Yes
That first argument is so transparently in bad faith. Like they have a limit on resolutions.
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I think what you’re probably experiencing is people who kind of intuitively understand the position as I explained it - that there are reasons for that extreme far-right sentiment, and that Israel and the US are kind of responsible for it, so blaming those people for being far-right seems like it’s advocating in favor of genocide - but perhaps struggle to put it into words and explain it in the same way I do. People sometimes get quite emotional around such discussions, which can lead to very charged and somewhat irrational responses.
Islam is still very unpopular among most westerners. I’m an atheist, but I’m something of a hobbyist theologian, and I will occasionally sprinkle little bits of religiosity into my comments here and there. I have definitely noticed that I get more negative responses when I make a reference to Islam than I do for references to Christianity, Taoism, Buddhism, etc.
More broadly, people often make quite unfair and broad statements about Islam and Sharia law, for example, and there’s certainly a lot of Islamophobia and terror jacketing that takes place in mainstream and online discourse. Look at all of the hate that Hasan Piker gets, for example - even US Senators have claimed that he is an Islamist and a jihadist just because he is a Muslim. I think that’s extremely wrong and bigoted.
It’s definitely wrong to tar an entire religion with the same brush - no religion is a monolith - I think everyone recognizes that we shouldn’t judge Christianity by the Westboro Baptist Church, and likewise we shouldn’t judge Islam by Al Qaeda or ISIS. There is a certain beauty in all religions, and there is something objectionable about almost all of them.
I will share with you with a passage from the Quran - specifically, Surah Al-Kafirun (109:1-6), about how Muslims should address those who do not share their belief in Allah:
“O you disbelievers! I do not worship what you worship, nor do you worship what I worship. I will never worship what you worship, nor will you ever worship what I worship. You have your way, and I have my Way.”
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It makes you a scum. Even mysogynistic society deserve to not be victim of settler colonialism and not get tortured, raped and killed
I know reading is hard but
- i condemed isreal in that same comment
2)ypu glossed right over the beheading of gay people.
Nobody gives a dsmn about your condemnation. Decent people simply do not talk about both side bad rhetoric.
Which is bullshit. I have the moral highgroubd because you support killers. I support neither. You are trash. A horrible person who wears the deaths of all the people killed for being different.
You also keep missing the main point. There arent both sides here. They are both right wing facists. The both sides people are those not Voting democrat
Do you know about the great march of return?
You hate occupied people. Fuck off. You talk like an europeen settler who genocided First Nations talking about the terrible things first nations did to each other. Say something like I hope a free palestine will have a progressist leadership and nobody would have a problem with it
First off, let me start by telling you that your feelings are valid. I’m not going to shame you for how you feel or for the opinions you hold, you’re entitled to them, no matter how much I disagree with them.
I am a disabled gay man, so I can understand where you’re coming from. I also want to live in a world without far-right extremism and homophobic hate crimes.
The real question is, though, how can we achieve that world? What actually causes right-wing extremism, and how can we prevent it?
Research has shown that the causes for people to drift toward far-right extremist ideologies are:
- A feeling that their identity (national, cultural, ethnic, or religious) is under threat.
- Economic insecurity, feeling unfairly treated, job loss or regional decline, lack of upward mobility
- Political polarization and distrust
- Histories of trauma, isolation, or humiliation
- A need for belonging, purpose, or recognition
With all of that in mind, it becomes kind of apparent to me that the US and Israel’s unlimited colonialism, ethnic cleansing and genocidal endeavors are actually a major cause of far-right extremism in the region. It is very likely that if Israel was dissolved and the west ceased their colonialist endeavors in the region and allowed the people living there to actually begin building a secure, stable society without exploitation and war, we would likely see that far-right extremism would decline and that societies would become more progressive.
On the other hand, allowing Israel and the US to continue their destabilization and ethnic cleansing campaign will only make the problem worse.
