Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region
Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European leaders leaked out.
Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two senior European officials.
Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.
It’s comically and frustratingly obvious that his “ideas” are simply “whatever the last guy he talked to said”
This’ll be the second time they’ve taken territory from Ukraine and gotten away with it. They’ll probably take Belarus once that dictator dies, and they’ll eventually take Moldova since they already control part of it. They’ll keep trying to take all of Ukraine until it happens.
So I think I missed something? Why is Trump thinking he has a say in this?
One angle of analysis is, that this war is a proxy war between the world‘s hegemon and a state that does not want to be subjugated to their rule, but rather insists on their own sovereignty.
The power balance in the world tipped in the (now) hegemons favor with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Since then the US further increased the pressure on the remnants of the old world power, Russia, through their military alliances they have with other, subjugated, western states.
The US works to stay the only power in the whole world, which is right now a so-called unipolar world, but lots of other countries aim for a multipolar world, because they don‘t want to suffer under the heavy boot of the US. Some might even strive to do things differently, but if they try, the bully of the world comes knocking.
The Ukraine, which also wants sovereignty, only has a marginal voice in all of this.
The Ukraine
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That doesn’t explain why Russia is invading an adjacent sovereign state. Ukraine “wants sovereignty” because it already has it and doesn’t want it taken away.
Since if Ukraine don’t listen, US will cut off military aid.
Which unfortunately, Ukraine need since no one else can provide the numbers and TACO would likely even block EU and AU from buying US weapons if they were intended for Ukraine.
Meanwhile he’s giving away Alaska to Putin.
It was obvious three days ago, but it’s painfully obvious now why Trump has initiated quasi martial law in DC.
would he really refuse to sell something?!
Well, he’s a bitch, so yeah if his boss tells him so he’s too little of a man to stick up to him.
Without any guarantees for peace, like joining NATO, any peace agreement isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. Putin will demand such things won’t happen and Trump will immediately agree.
Indeed, Ukraine had an agreement for giving back nuclear weapons…
It ain’t his tho?
This is like selling someone else’s car to a third party.
Yeah, but he wouldn’t be the rapist that he is if he understood no means no.
But the car repairs has been paid for by US
Doesn’t much matter, Zelensky has already said that’s a non-starter and their constitution forbids it anyway.
Next Putin will claim Alaska used to be Russian, and should be handed back.
And trump would give it to him after some fake posturing.
Actually, Lenin invented the United States in the first place, so their entire country is historically part of Russia /s
I don’t seem to remember anyone other than Trump appointing Trump the lead deal negotiator for this, people would be losing their brains of Xi Jinping or Kier Starmer randomly started saying they were negotiating a ceasfire between Russia and Ukraine, Trump starts trying to do and it’s all “sure let’s give him a crack at it” regardless of the ridiculous outcomes of his meetings with either Putin or Zelinsky… I’ve seen toddlers with better negotiating skills than this demented fool
Trump is willing to sell out Ukraine and carve up its carcass as long as he gets a piece of the action.
Let’s also not forget that the only reason he is even trying to negotiate and put an end to the war is trying to get the nobel peace prize.
Piece of shit. The US really outdid themselves reelecting that asshole.
I think it might be more of an Epstein situation here.
Child raping fucktard
Oh so we negotiate with and reward terrorists now? Because they aren’t going to stop here any more than they stopped with Crimea.
To be fair, we always have. Despite it being said that we don’t, that’s always been bullshit. It’s said so terrorists think that they can’t be rewarded for their actions, but almost every time they try to negotiate we do, which is probably a good thing.
“negotiate”
The important thing to remember is that Putin said Trump won the 2020 election though. Why is everyone so focused on this “Ukraine” thing?
This is the age of information overload. There is just too much to keep up with, and media can’t help themselves chasing trends so the algos actually hit them.
