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This isn’t about sports and it never was. Turns out when you’re willing to give in to one aspect of unscientific bigotry (the trans sports moral panic), you’ll be willing to give into others. And yes, opposing trans athletes in sports is fundamentally transphobic. Notice you never see transphobes like Newsom proposing narrowly targeted regulations that only address sports where some large and clear advantage has been proven. You never see transphobes like Newsom proposing that trans athletes in individual sports be given some handicap that would cancel out an advantage they’ve been scientifically proven to have. Instead it’s all bigoted blanket bans that are no different from bans that used to exclude black people from whites-only leagues. They never start from a position of fairness and compassion and try to intervene as little as necessary. It’s all about just keeping the filthy trannies out of polite society. These bans prohibit trans women from women’s gymnastics, for fuck’s sake. So yes, if you support blanket trans sports bans, you are a transphobic bigot. I’m sorry, but you can’t just hand waive it away with, “well aside from this example of unambiguous bigotry, I don’t see any bigotry here.” You might as well be saying, “well aside from this person being a registered member of the KKK, I don’t see any evidence that this person is racist.”
There is an easy solution to this. DON’T NOMINATE NEWSOME. Transphobia isn’t an inherent stance for the liberal party. We can just nominate a candidate that doesn’t proactively shit on civil rights to, for some reason, court conservatives who are never going to vote for us.
not for kids until they’ve hit puberty… there’s no significant muscle mass or endurance difference between males and females until after puberty hits
so yes, in context of kids sports it’s absolutely unscientific
there’s possibly a conversation to be had about teen sports BUT:
at the very least if a kid is on puberty blockers, there’s no reason to stop them from competing in whatever sport they like because puberty is what brings on the muscle mass that people are complaining about
until someone has an actual documented case of this being a problem, it’s an imagined problem… so far i think the stats were that there were something like 10 trans athletes competing in notable competitions across the entire US, and nobody involved has actually complained… in fact, there was a big blow up recently where a trans girl won some comp and a politician started using it to make a lot of noise about. the 2nd place girl came out in support of her and said how she was just better, and how it sickened her that the sport they both loved and the kids involved were being used in some political posturing. this is not a problem worthy of political attention
Well, yes, I did mean teen sports and previously exposed to high levels of testosterone athletes.
We know from steroid research athletes who train on steroids and come off them for tests still get a strength bonus in competition since they don’t lose all the benefits the second they stop using them (because they continue training to maintain)
It’s not an imagined problem. Lia Thomas ranked 554th in 200 freestyle as a male and won 500 freestyle after transition.
She only lost 4-7% from her previous times, while women on average are 10 slower than men. So she went from unremarkable to top tier. The reason is she kept more muscle from male puberty than a woman who didn’t go through it would be able to train.
It’s not an insurmountable lead since she didn’t win every event, but someone who had better times before transition would be able to post even better times after.
I did mean teen sports and previously exposed to high levels of testosterone athletes.
well then there’s 2 parts here
adult athletes: nobody is really politically talking about this from what i can tell… the conversation is all about kids sports, because that’s the only thing that politics has any power to control
teen sports: okay, well again as i said in my post, this is a non-issue… why preemptively bar a whole class of people for an issue that just isn’t actually happening?
applies to all cases here: you seem to think transitioning is something people would just do to win a game… i really dont think that’s actually the case (and id argue your lia thomas example kinda proves that: nobody is transitioning to win, otherwise we’d see men ranked 50th, 70th, etc transitioning and winning)
It’s not an imagined problem. Lia Thomas ranked 554th in 200 freestyle as a male and won 500 freestyle after transition.
so, what, you’re trans therefore you’re just not allowed to play sports any more?
but that’s not even relevant really… in the context that matters politically - kids sports - it’s absolutely an imagined problem
and if we were more accepting of people being trans without repercussions, maybe people would start transitioning before puberty and then, again, this wouldn’t be a problem… the problem here is transphobia causing people to fight against being themselves because of societal pressure
This isn’t about sports and it never was. Turns out when you’re willing to give in to one aspect of unscientific bigotry (the trans sports moral panic), you’ll be willing to give into others. And yes, opposing trans athletes in sports is fundamentally transphobic. Notice you never see transphobes like Newsom proposing narrowly targeted regulations that only address sports where some large and clear advantage has been proven. You never see transphobes like Newsom proposing that trans athletes in individual sports be given some handicap that would cancel out an advantage they’ve been scientifically proven to have. Instead it’s all bigoted blanket bans that are no different from bans that used to exclude black people from whites-only leagues. They never start from a position of fairness and compassion and try to intervene as little as necessary. It’s all about just keeping the filthy trannies out of polite society. These bans prohibit trans women from women’s gymnastics, for fuck’s sake. So yes, if you support blanket trans sports bans, you are a transphobic bigot. I’m sorry, but you can’t just hand waive it away with, “well aside from this example of unambiguous bigotry, I don’t see any bigotry here.” You might as well be saying, “well aside from this person being a registered member of the KKK, I don’t see any evidence that this person is racist.”
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/newsoms-bizarre-interview-with-maga
I wonder if you’ll continue to hold this stance after Trump starts putting trans people into concentration camps?
It’ll be Democrats, or a continuation and escalation of what’s happening now. If we have a fair election at all.
There is an easy solution to this. DON’T NOMINATE NEWSOME. Transphobia isn’t an inherent stance for the liberal party. We can just nominate a candidate that doesn’t proactively shit on civil rights to, for some reason, court conservatives who are never going to vote for us.
Shove it up your ass.
My question was not rhetorical.
It’s unscientific that AMAB individuals are stronger than AFAB individuals?
not for kids until they’ve hit puberty… there’s no significant muscle mass or endurance difference between males and females until after puberty hits
so yes, in context of kids sports it’s absolutely unscientific
there’s possibly a conversation to be had about teen sports BUT:
Well, yes, I did mean teen sports and previously exposed to high levels of testosterone athletes.
We know from steroid research athletes who train on steroids and come off them for tests still get a strength bonus in competition since they don’t lose all the benefits the second they stop using them (because they continue training to maintain)
It’s not an imagined problem. Lia Thomas ranked 554th in 200 freestyle as a male and won 500 freestyle after transition.
She only lost 4-7% from her previous times, while women on average are 10 slower than men. So she went from unremarkable to top tier. The reason is she kept more muscle from male puberty than a woman who didn’t go through it would be able to train.
It’s not an insurmountable lead since she didn’t win every event, but someone who had better times before transition would be able to post even better times after.
well then there’s 2 parts here
adult athletes: nobody is really politically talking about this from what i can tell… the conversation is all about kids sports, because that’s the only thing that politics has any power to control
teen sports: okay, well again as i said in my post, this is a non-issue… why preemptively bar a whole class of people for an issue that just isn’t actually happening?
applies to all cases here: you seem to think transitioning is something people would just do to win a game… i really dont think that’s actually the case (and id argue your lia thomas example kinda proves that: nobody is transitioning to win, otherwise we’d see men ranked 50th, 70th, etc transitioning and winning)
so, what, you’re trans therefore you’re just not allowed to play sports any more?
but that’s not even relevant really… in the context that matters politically - kids sports - it’s absolutely an imagined problem
and if we were more accepting of people being trans without repercussions, maybe people would start transitioning before puberty and then, again, this wouldn’t be a problem… the problem here is transphobia causing people to fight against being themselves because of societal pressure
Swing and a miss.
Not an argument