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    US politics is weird. Liberal in the rest of the world is more aligned to socialism than capitalism. Leftist is way more extreme.

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      a liberal in the united states is a centrist in the rest of the world.

      a leftist in the united states is a liberal in the rest of the world.

      the united states is MUCH more conservative that the rest of the world

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      Liberalism isn’t aligned to socialism anywhere, socialism is antithetical to liberalism. Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism, which is diametrically opposed to socialism.

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        That is classical liberalism. It doesn’t reflect modern liberal ideals which have aligned more with socialism, and a lot of european parties regularly form coalitions with socialist or social-democratic parties because their ideals align so often in modern times.

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          Liberalism cannot align with socialism, they are diametrically opposed. Liberalism supports private property while socialism supports public ownership of property. Social Democracy is a subset of liberalism. “Modern liberalism” is just maintaining capitalism.

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      Liberal in the rest of the world is more aligned to socialism

      I agree that US political vocabulary is weird. But this characterization just isn’t true at all.

      For example, in Japan, the Liberal Democratic Party is ideologically conservative. Same story with the Australian Liberal Party.

      Whereas Liberalism in the US is associated with the left of the Overton Window.