The surprise move, in a declaration endorsed on Tuesday by the 22 member nations of the Arab League, also condemned Hamas’s Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, which set off the devastating war in Gaza.
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The surprise move, in a declaration endorsed on Tuesday by the 22 member nations of the Arab League, also condemned Hamas’s Oct. 7 attacks on Israel, which set off the devastating war in Gaza.
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I usually have 0 confidence in the Arab states to do anything good, but this headline is misleading. What’s being called for here is for Hamas to disarm and hand over its weapons to the Palestinian Authority in the process of creating a Palestinian state, which is like, duh of course independent paramilitaries shouldn’t exist inside a sovereign state. It’s technically a call for Hamas to disarm, but they had to have known what impression this headline would give. Fuck NYT.
The Gulf despots (and the ones in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait) are shit-scared of Arab democracy and have never actually done anything meaningful to help the Palestinians, besides setting up some refugee camps and treating the inhabitants as a source of contagion.
The last thing the Gulfies want to see is any Arab government with any legitimacy. It would make their own people, and the vast underclass of TCNs, start asking awkward questions.
Definitely true, but that’s one thing and calling for Palestinians to stop fighting in the middle of a genocide is another. My point is that the declaration in the article isn’t saying that even though the headline makes it seem so. This declaration should be seen fo what it is: A vague platitude that doesn’t change the fact that they’re a bunch of traitors (which, to be clear, isn’t restricted to the Gulf; Egypt and Jordan for example aren’t much better).
Why should palestinians drop arms before occupation end? How can you say that when israeli support ethenically cleansing palestinians?
Creating a sovereign Palestinian state is ending the occupation. Also note that I never said Palestinians should lay down their arms; I only said that when/if a democratic state is created those arms should be in the hands of that democratic state, not unelected paramilitaries.
TL;DR: Israel fucks off then Palestinian paramilitaries disband, not the other way around.
Arab countries and the west want hamas to disarm before the state is created and if the state ever got created they want it to have no army.
When you keep sending arms to israel and have great trading with them there is no reason,why israel will ever allow a state
This declaration explicitly states otherwise though? You can just, like, go read it. It’s pretty milquetoast stuff.
False , this is the order 1- Hamas ceases power, disarms, and hands authority to PA
2 - PA conducts elections to govern all Palestinian territories
3 - Israel ends occupation and commits to a two-state solution with security guarantees.
This would just be another failed accord like Oslo accords where the PA respect it’s commitment but Israel continue the occupation with even less resistance. Then the west and Arab countries continue to have great unofficial relations
https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/159734
Why would Hamas yield power back to the PNA after ruling Gaza for 18 years? The good of the people?
I dunno, ask them.
More seriously, Hamas’s claim to legitimacy is their fight for Palestinian self-determination. If that’s back on the table, they won’t be able to maintain their authoritarian state anymore, because both Palestinians and the international community will want them gone, or at least out of power so democratic elections can take place. Also, this is pretty much what they accepted in the Jan 2025 ceasefire; it’d be a political impossibility for them to maintain undemocratic rule without active Israeli aggression and they know that.
TL;DR: Because they’ll have no other choice. Also I’m not sure what this has to do with my comment.