‘The rich people don’t need it ... all those Democrat donors of Wall Street, all these hedge fund guys, who all hate the tariffs,’ Republican lawmaker tells Steve Bannon
Conservatism is, at its root, monarchist. The original writers and thinkers were focused on preserving authoritarian rule, then upon how to build and maintain hierarchies of society where people rule over others.
They’ve never been interested in democratic ideals unless it suits them to reinstate a dictatorship.
It must be such a radically different mindset to live in. Like, I can’t imagine ever feeling enthusiastic about enforced hierarchies and monarchy.
Social mobility feels the most liberating, and social constraints the most confining. How can anyone feel differently? I genuinely do not understand.
Weren’t we supposed to be in suppprt of free markets? Aren’t those supposed to empower people to make deals with other people on their own terms, create value, compete, and prosper? Enforced hierarchy and oligarchy feels like not at all that.
It must be control-freakery which, again, I cannot relate to at all.
The early conservative thinkers wrote about the French Revolutions and the rise of egalitarian thinking meant that something must take the place of monarchies to decide the social order. They preferred war as the measure of who should be the leaders, but that money and wealth could be a substitute. This led to Capitalist concepts infesting the right wing since monarchies are off the table.
Innuendo Studios has some great videos summarizing the alt right, conservatism, and Christian nationalism if you’re interested:
Regarding the mindset issue, it might be more baked into people than we’d like. Two great books on the topic are:
The Authoritarians by Altimeter
The Righteous Mind by Haidt
They also have videos summarizing the works in presentations and interviews. It seems that people end up having shadings of authoritarian drives, which means they’re happier living under someone’s commands and will work to preserve hierarchies despite the harm it causes others. Whether it is socialization or biological I don’t know.
To sum up: some people want to be ruled and they’re currently tearing the US down to let a king rule over the rubble.
Edmund Burke and Joseph de Maistre were not anti-monarchist at all. Rather the opposite. If you’re thinking of the founding fathers of the United States then you’re not having the same conversation as who you replied to.
Conservatism is, at its root, monarchist. The original writers and thinkers were focused on preserving authoritarian rule, then upon how to build and maintain hierarchies of society where people rule over others.
They’ve never been interested in democratic ideals unless it suits them to reinstate a dictatorship.
It must be such a radically different mindset to live in. Like, I can’t imagine ever feeling enthusiastic about enforced hierarchies and monarchy.
Social mobility feels the most liberating, and social constraints the most confining. How can anyone feel differently? I genuinely do not understand.
Weren’t we supposed to be in suppprt of free markets? Aren’t those supposed to empower people to make deals with other people on their own terms, create value, compete, and prosper? Enforced hierarchy and oligarchy feels like not at all that.
It must be control-freakery which, again, I cannot relate to at all.
The early conservative thinkers wrote about the French Revolutions and the rise of egalitarian thinking meant that something must take the place of monarchies to decide the social order. They preferred war as the measure of who should be the leaders, but that money and wealth could be a substitute. This led to Capitalist concepts infesting the right wing since monarchies are off the table.
Innuendo Studios has some great videos summarizing the alt right, conservatism, and Christian nationalism if you’re interested:
https://youtu.be/E4CI2vk3ugk
Regarding the mindset issue, it might be more baked into people than we’d like. Two great books on the topic are:
The Authoritarians by Altimeter
The Righteous Mind by Haidt
They also have videos summarizing the works in presentations and interviews. It seems that people end up having shadings of authoritarian drives, which means they’re happier living under someone’s commands and will work to preserve hierarchies despite the harm it causes others. Whether it is socialization or biological I don’t know.
To sum up: some people want to be ruled and they’re currently tearing the US down to let a king rule over the rubble.
I hate everything about this. Because it’s probably spot on.
So, what is to be done about authoritarians?
What are those of us who simply want to live free and be left alone (and leave others alone, if they’d only tend to their own business) to do?
Maybe the answer really is guillotines idk. The paradox of protecting liberalism with illiberal means and all that.
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Edmund Burke and Joseph de Maistre were not anti-monarchist at all. Rather the opposite. If you’re thinking of the founding fathers of the United States then you’re not having the same conversation as who you replied to.