• Photuris@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    It must be such a radically different mindset to live in. Like, I can’t imagine ever feeling enthusiastic about enforced hierarchies and monarchy.

    Social mobility feels the most liberating, and social constraints the most confining. How can anyone feel differently? I genuinely do not understand.

    Weren’t we supposed to be in suppprt of free markets? Aren’t those supposed to empower people to make deals with other people on their own terms, create value, compete, and prosper? Enforced hierarchy and oligarchy feels like not at all that.

    It must be control-freakery which, again, I cannot relate to at all.

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      19 hours ago

      The early conservative thinkers wrote about the French Revolutions and the rise of egalitarian thinking meant that something must take the place of monarchies to decide the social order. They preferred war as the measure of who should be the leaders, but that money and wealth could be a substitute. This led to Capitalist concepts infesting the right wing since monarchies are off the table.

      Innuendo Studios has some great videos summarizing the alt right, conservatism, and Christian nationalism if you’re interested:

      https://youtu.be/E4CI2vk3ugk

      Regarding the mindset issue, it might be more baked into people than we’d like. Two great books on the topic are:

      The Authoritarians by Altimeter

      The Righteous Mind by Haidt

      They also have videos summarizing the works in presentations and interviews. It seems that people end up having shadings of authoritarian drives, which means they’re happier living under someone’s commands and will work to preserve hierarchies despite the harm it causes others. Whether it is socialization or biological I don’t know.

      To sum up: some people want to be ruled and they’re currently tearing the US down to let a king rule over the rubble.

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        18 hours ago

        I hate everything about this. Because it’s probably spot on.

        So, what is to be done about authoritarians?

        What are those of us who simply want to live free and be left alone (and leave others alone, if they’d only tend to their own business) to do?

        Maybe the answer really is guillotines idk. The paradox of protecting liberalism with illiberal means and all that.