Oh I’m gonna loooove asking my MAGA Catholics about this!
The drunk bastard is turning the Pentagon into a church and the US military will become the Christian version of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
Fuck Heslgsetu with a hot poker and all, but this is not as bad as it sounds.
It’s just saying there’s only 1 Christian service for Good Friday, and it’s Protestant. The reason for that is probably because Catholic Mass is less inclusive than Protestant. For instance: you have to been through Catholic Confirmation to take part in Communion in a Catholic Mass, whereas Protestant churches typically have open communion allowing anyone - including Catholics - to take part.
As the Pentagon doesn’t
hostpromote services for the holidays of other religions to the same extent as they do for evangelical Protestantism, this is a clear violation of the separation of church and state.Edit: Highlighted corrections to the above statement in italics.
Just add it to all the other violations.
I’ll just put this violation with the other violations, then…
Unfortunately, it’s added to the list of “so sue me” which is basically this administration response on anything they have done in the last year and change
What are you going to do about it? Is the only question that matters to this gangster Administration.
The Constitution allows for the possibility of a gangster Administration. Checks and balances. The hope was that the Supreme Court and Congress would keep the executive branch in check.
The Constitution also recognizes that no system is perfect, so it adds the right to bear arms. Not for sport. Not for defense. The Second Amendment exists specifically to fight tyranny. Just in case the elections get rigged and an extremist party takes control.
Such an unlikely scenario, amiright?
…the argument your making about the 2nd amendment is why it’s now obsolete. When America was founded, firearms could actually be used to overthrow a corrupt government. They had practical utility. At this point, however, half the population armed with assault rifles wouldn’t make a difference. A combination of the government’s mass surveillance and superior firepower would put down the rebellion before it got off the ground
I’m of the opinion that the constitution should adjust to changing times. 18th century laws aren’t geared to solve 21st century issues.
Totally agree with you, a handgun is no match for a tank. If the military wants to make war on citizens, they will lose.
However, there is more going on that meets the eye. Many members of the military would not want to shoot their own citizens. And armed citizens can still do more damage than unarmed citizens. In other words, the 2A forces an authoritarian administration to use violence in order to repress the citizens. It ups the stakes. And citizens can strike in ways that the military can’t. Guerilla warfare tactics. They don’t need to “win”, they just need to disrupt, to spread fear.
But, yeah, with the current surveillance state, along with the culpability of the media, it seems a dubious proposition that armed citizens can save themselves from the fascists. Regardless, I have suddenly become a HUGE proponent of guns. Especially when I see the Black Panthers providing security for demonstrators. Respect.
This is false.
The Pentagon hosts a Ramadan dinner (at the end of the holiday, to celebrate the conclusion of the fasting ritual).
The Pentagon has hosted Hanukkah menorah lighting ceremonies. (I’m not sure if they still do.)
The issue here isn’t the sponsoring of a religious activity. The function of the military is to send soldiers to their deaths. Those soldiers who need spiritual support should absolutely have access to it.
The issue is that the president and the defense secretary have incorporated evangelical Christianity into their cronyism. Religion is being used as a litmus test for loyalty.
Signed,
A pragmatic (ex-militant) atheist
Made corrections to my comment. Importantly, Pentagon leadership should not be any more involved in the organization and celebration of any religious event more than another.
…anymore? When my mother worked there (admittedly, decades ago), the catholic chaplain conducted mass every Friday morning. (Very quickly. “GodblessAmenGetbacktowork.”) They also had other religion’s services. Nothing mandatory.
If only we had a “liberal media”, they would be quite busy asking more questions about the Seven Mountain Mandate and scum of the Earth like Drinky Pete.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate
Not one of these assholes believes in the Constitution nor what America is supposed to stand for. And no, this place was not founded as Jesusland.
And us Atheists who point out that all the various Gods are fucking fanfic have to shut up and take it
Literally hundreds of Gods. Atheists just believe in one less God than they do.
I mean, take what?
That the exclusive nature of any base doing anything religious is smaller this time than it normally is?
Like, I’m a vet, I’m an atheist…
I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about.
If it was slightly more inclusive it wouldn’t be news and no one would care about every still excluded.
Which just means more people realize how fucked any religious association is, and that modern chaplains should be replaced with trained social workers.
Overall Kegsworth overstepping early works like a vaccine
Bro…
If you think he’s bad, do you have any idea what the Air Force has been like for decades?
Here’s an article from 20+ years ago illustrating it’s a known problem we just won’t fix:
Professor KRISTEN LESLIE (Yale Divinity School): And she was scared and was not able to move, and so the other cadets in a way to cheer her on were trying to support her but yelling very evangelical, `Jesus will be with you. Jesus will save you,’ and that struck us as odd as a way to motivate someone in an environment that is not intended to be a religious environment.
BRADY: During a Protestant church service, Leslie says chaplains urged cadets to proselytize their bunk mates and warned that if they didn’t turn their lives over to Jesus…
Prof. LESLIE: …they would burn in the fires of hell.
https://www.npr.org/2005/06/02/4676698/air-force-academy-embroiled-in-religious-controversy
You know who runs the Air Force Academy board now?
Erika fucking Kirk.
They religious far right have been grooming incoming officers for decades and now they’re 20-30 year high ranking officers.
…
And you’re mad that the annual Christian celebration just now cut off Catholics?
All this does is make that demo realize they’re on our side whether they like us or not
Edit to add:
Like, this the “second wave KKK” type shit that’s been around a century already, but these movements always get less inclusive:
The Ku Klux Klan that surfaced in the 1920s formed the second wave of Klan activity in the United States. Unlike the first emergence of the Ku Klux Klan, formed in the South in 1868 and mainly concerned with keeping black people from exercising their new freedoms, the second wave of the Ku Klux Klan focused their efforts on a wider range of issues. This new wave portrayed themselves as a race-protecting group that “espoused a virulent form of racism, anti-Semitism, anti-Catholicism, and anti-immigrant sentiment.”1 Secondly, they saw themselves as “moral, law-abiding citizens dedicated to political and civil reform, civic improvement, and the defense of traditional American values.”
https://depts.washington.edu/civilr/kkk_i49.htm
They’ve been focusing on all the military academies for generations now. They prosetlyze like crazy even tho it’s against regs, and prey on people during training when they’re most suceptible.
And just a week ago Kegsworth forbid Chaplins from displaying rank, and intead show an icon of their faith. While at the same time shrinking the number of options from 200 to 31…
I’m not saying don’t be pissed, I’m saying be pissed at the shit that matters, not the shit that gains us reluctant allies
Was there not an entire deal during the Amy Coney Barrett confirmation hearings where the GOP was up in arms about the left being ‘anti-Catholic’ for questioning her beliefs about abortion and about queer rights? And now they’re doing this?
I’m not surprised by the hypocrisy, I just feel like it merits pointing out.
Nazis
What about Satanists?
Pentagon says “no”.
Pentagram
What about Sataists who reject the Cult of the NVMe?
May their budget be adequate in these trying times.
pentagons are the worstagons
The Holy American Empire is becoming a reality
Hmmm. Where’s my colander…
Anti-theists are stuck in the classic bigot’s dilemma.
On the one hand, they hate the administration. On the other, they love religious discrimination.
These fascists are NOT religious, they’re pandering to the evangelicals, sheep and muggles.
They’re the biblical definition of evil and corruption incarnate.
This is literally what “taking the Lord’s name in vain” is (it’s not yelling “God Fucking Damn It” when you stub your teo).
Not really, im just annoying any tax dollars at all are going to a religious service, Protestant or catholic or pastafarian
They…are?
